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The Real Problem With Cloud Security

All the recent hoopla about cloud security overlooks an important point, which is that it's not strictly a cloud problem. The linkage of online services into cooperative chains creates the risk, and only biometrics and federation of providers can save us.
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Written by Tom Nolle
8/17/2012 7 comments
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tintolou
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Tuesday September 11, 2012 10:55:04 AM
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Tom,

Thanks!

Lou

Tom Nolle
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Tuesday September 11, 2012 9:39:57 AM
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I think that's exactly the issue, Kim.  The question is whether you can change the size of an "attack surface" by adding things to it, including security itself.  Doesn't more stuff just make the surface bigger?  It seems to me that we have a new vision in the cloud, a vision of cooperative experiences that combine elements from multiple sources.  That combination process is inherently a major risk unless you make the mechanism highly secure intrinsically.  Arguably this is a "federation" issue because all clouds are federations of multiple parties, and we are IMHO absolutely nowhere with cloud federation.

Tom

Tom Nolle
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Tuesday September 11, 2012 9:37:26 AM
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I think those are good questions, tintolou, and ones that can be expressed in a single point; "are best practices for security adequate for the cloud"?  If so, then we can train and organize people to address cloud security.  If not, then we need different security tools or different cloud architectures that are inherently more secure.

IMHO, it's the latter.  I think that cloud security is different because the cloud opens a new level of risk...likely several new levels...and also exacerbates pretty much all of the current network and IT application risks.  My view has always been that cloud computing has to be more than IaaS hosting, it has to be a whole new conception of IT and applications.  That new conception has to integrate security and not tack it on.  Think of the cloud as distributed SOA combined with distributed resources and you can quickly realize that we don't know how to make two indefinites combine in a definite, predictable way.  Given that, we can't secure the combination.

Tom

Kim Davis
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Tuesday August 21, 2012 4:06:16 PM
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Yes, Tom!  To mix metaphors, that ever-lengthening chain is what I think NIST was getting at when it referred to the very large attack face of cloud systems.

tintolou
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Monday August 20, 2012 5:31:52 PM
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Mary / Tom,

In your opinions, can we :

1.  Reduce the risk at the user level with enhanced User Security Awareness Training?

2.  Reduce the risk at the contract level by ensuring IT Security personnel are involved with drafting/finalizing the contract?

Thanks!

Lou

Tom Nolle
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Saturday August 18, 2012 8:02:42 AM
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I agree, Mary; I think that the real security culprits are the inherent anonymity of the Internet and the growing tendency to link things, which creates a secruity chain that's weaker simply because it's longer.  The cloud has security issues but they're not in the main the problem we experience (they're the problem to come!)

Tom

Mary Jander
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Friday August 17, 2012 6:22:18 PM
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Thanks Tom for reminding us how cloud services don't exist in a vacuum but connect to other online access points that need to be secured. Pointing the finger at cloud services as the weak point is inviting trouble, IMO, since it fails to see the big picture. Sometimes it's not the cloud that's insecure, it's the user, the data, or the contract with the provider.

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