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Measuring Online Violence vs. Real Risk

Some say that exposure to violence in gaming, online video, etc., is creating a violent culture. Tom says it's not that straightforward. Rather than regulate violence, we should understand it better.
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3/23/2012 8 comments
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Tom Nolle
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Monday March 26, 2012 10:05:13 AM
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Some are destined for deepness, and some for shallowness, regardless of stimulus.  It's the people in between we need to save!

Tom

Mary Jander
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Monday March 26, 2012 9:53:58 AM
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Good points all. As to reading teaching us to be shallow, I offer examples of people who appear to be shallow -- or at least not tuned to traditional values -- yet possess extraordinary literary skills.

Did someone mention Conrad Black?

Tom Nolle
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Friday March 23, 2012 2:48:26 PM
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Only the issues that can withstand over-discussion ever become political!

Tom

Kim Davis
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Friday March 23, 2012 2:31:41 PM
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Video games?  We've been around the block so many times on this issue: videos, television, horror comics, novels, penny dreadfuls (okay, going back before my time now).

The claim that violent content triggers violence in people otherwise not-disposed to violence has always been twaddle, remains twaddle, and always will be twaddle.  Of course, violent people enjoy violent content.

Tom Nolle
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Friday March 23, 2012 1:21:43 PM
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That's pretty much my view, Nicole.  I finally took the decisive step and became a Vulcan; humans are just too disorderly for me!

There may be a different issue lurking under both trends (violence and stupidity) which is a shallow emotional stimulation to substitute for deeper intellectual engagement.  Does reading teach us to be "deep" and video teach us to be "shallow", I wonder?  Are we conditioned to want to be given answers instead of learning methods whereby we could obtain them as needed?  In the long term these may be the more relevant questions.

Tom

Nicole Ferraro
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Friday March 23, 2012 1:17:35 PM
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I agree with the points shared by both you and Mary, Tom. Violent videos and violent games don't create violent people. Do they provoke the violent thoughts already within some people, or perhaps energize them in a dangerous way? That's harder to say. But that, again, has more to do with a person's mental state than it does with the content.

We probably don't need nearly as much violent content as exists. But we don't need as much stupid content either. I recently saw some really horribly stupid meme on YouTube of people making videos of themselves trying to eat cinnamon -- which is actually dangerous; yet it caught on and more and more people started making videos of themselves trying it.

I don't think the problem is content. I think the problem is people.

Tom Nolle
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Friday March 23, 2012 11:45:52 AM
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Your point is also great, Mary.  I think that the Internet is testing our ability to balance rights and obligations in a bunch of new ways.  The issue of violent or abusive online content is one we've seen come up many times recently (in NJ for example just in the last month).

I think personally that you have to start with the notion that where "communication behavior" is already regulated (you can't make obscene or threatening phone calls or incite to riot) I think the presumption must be that the same behavior online is regulated.  The question is whether, as some have argued, the "speed" of the Internet creates wrongs so fast that traditional means can't right them.  I think that's a dangerous argument, as I think the arguments that say that violent video games are worse than kids playing cops and robbers with realistic guns.

Tom

Mary Jander
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Friday March 23, 2012 11:18:11 AM
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Tom: Great point. Violence is typically the product of a diseased mind or of a deprived and/or brutal upbringing. Violence online can exacerbate the internal problem, but IMO it's an inside job -- inside the person, not caused by an outside force on a video game.

We don't need one more reason to control content on the Net.

All that said, I do think there is an awful lot of bad, even poisonous, content online that no one should see. And if viewed it can cause trauma and perhaps an insensitivity to violence. That's worth considering. But in the main, filtering content voluntarily can prevent this from happening.

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