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Hulu Voodoo

Saunders continues his tit-for-tat battle with Fritz 'Patch' Nelson over the merits, or otherwise, of the video sharing Website. Fight! Fight! Fight!
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Hulu is spectacularly popular with users and a total disaster for its owners. What the flegnog do they think they're doing?
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Saunders is wrong on Hulu, Fritz thinks. By most measures it's been a success, and there's no reason this model won't become even bigger in the next three years. Oh, and he hates Steve's hat.
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Fritz says: Hulu Plus proves that Hulu could very well succeed and – more importantly – that Saunders is wrong.
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Chris Poley
Thinkernetter
Monday August 9, 2010 5:35:26 PM
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Ahhh...If my math is correct,. It's still $.25/ person more than YouTube is making or General Motors for that matter. 

Susan Fourtané
Thinkernetter
Tuesday January 12, 2010 3:02:31 AM

Nathan & Mary, 

It seems like Canada and Europe share the same problem. 

I get this kind of message from Hulu: 

The video library can only be streamed within the US blah blah blah

I suppose Hulu would be more profitable is they would make the content also available to the rest of the world.

-Susan

 

Terry Sweeney
IQ Crew
Monday January 11, 2010 7:00:32 PM

Frankly, with its ownership (Fox, ABC, NBC, Universal, others), I don't get that there's a lot of pressure for Hulu to make a profit in 2010. it still feels like relatively early days where video as content is concerned, particularly broadcast (or cable) video as content.

Still, I bet all those broadcasters would like to be generating 99 cents per episode of "Nurse Jackie" or "30 Rock" or Your Guilty Pleasure Here episodes that iTunes duns me for...

Chris Poley
Thinkernetter
Monday January 11, 2010 5:35:15 PM

Hulu is in the process of blowing through the remainder of that 2007 $100 million investment from private equity firm Providence Equity Partners. So now the burden can fall on FOX (News Corp, NASDAQ:NWS), and NBC Universal (Comcast, NASDAQ: CMCSA)  and ABC (Disney, NYSE: DIS) shareholders. 

So, I don't own any of these companies stocks, I guess I should take the free ride as long as it lasts and let the stock holders worry about Hulu as a money pit.

Insultant
Thinkernetter
Monday January 11, 2010 4:42:52 PM

terry, you are right, i didn't suggest a solution, did i? I guess if i ran the world (or hulu, whichever comes first!) i would get out of dodge by trying to implement a piss easy subscription plan - something which was a real no brainer as a standalone service, and/or which could also be bolted onto or bundled with a consumer hardware device like and x-box and/or iphone. But that's just me - and after all WHO AM I excpet the founder of multiple hugely profitable successful online businesses?

:-)  

Insultant
Thinkernetter
Monday January 11, 2010 4:25:29 PM

pursuasively put. would love to hear more real numbers. blog sounds like a great idea.

Scott Raynovich
Thinkernetter
Monday January 11, 2010 4:12:12 PM

Steve,

I don't presume to know the truth (yet).I will look at some more numbers to offer more analysis.

However, I would not say it is a "rob peter to pay paul" argument, because a lot of marketing value is created in Hulu. Think of how many marketing dollars media companies spend to promote their content (in the case of film, it is sometimes 40% of the operating budget). If the companies involved believe there are larger viewership benefits of Hulu's success, they may be willing to subsidize it. Look at it this way: Would you rather pay other people to promote your media or chose to put those dollars into an online entity that you already own?

Also, there are studies that show that online viewing does not cannabilize traditional in a way you would think. Sometimes the "online teasers" actually increase and draw audience to the traditional show. People simply want more of the same stuff.

The best example is The Daily Show, which has a huge online following and also huge TV viewership. Are the two mutually exclusive? I don't think so.

Like I said I have to do more research maybe a blog post next week?

--Scott

Insultant
Thinkernetter
Monday January 11, 2010 3:44:38 PM

Scott,

Would love to hear your analysis.

BTW, that analyst, Amel, has gone back into that story and updated it to say that Hulu *isn't* making a profit. Also, you gotta factor in how much of the $120 or $180M in revenue is just coming out of budget that the Hulu owners' customers' would otherwise have spent on their boradcast networks, right?

That's called robbing Peter to pay Paul, innit?

Steve-o

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Let's Hear It for Outsiders!

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Steve and Nicole are at HCL's Unstructure conference at Disneyworld where Malcolm Gladwell and his hair gave a fascinating keynote on the advantages of being an "outsider."
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Steve is live at Dell World in Austin, Texas, which he says is "hot" – and he has some advice for C-level executives.
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Steve and Nicole "investigate" religious dating sites, sort of. It's all kind of incoherent but mildly entertaining.
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Tweeting Bin Laden: Groan

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So, Osama Bin Laden is dead, but the REALLY BIG NEWS is that people Tweeted about it. Obviously, Lucy and Desi are annoyed.
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Managing for Dummies, by Google

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Steve and Nicole go through Google’s appallingly obvious list of the eight ways to be a good manager.
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Lessons in Website Design

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Most Website designs still stink. Take a look at TechRepublic for a lesson in what not to do when relaunching.
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Steve and Nicole discuss the merits of Twitter, particularly for the B2B industry. Guess what? There are none!
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Deconstructing the Starbucks Mermaid

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Starbucks has lost its logo lettering. Has it also lost its mind?
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Netflix Learns a Lesson

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Netflix seemed to be a threat to all of TV, but with the current quarterly earnings report, it sure doesn't look as if that's true now. Netflix really proves that even Internet viewing of video isn't immune to profit and other business issues. This is a lesson we need to learn if we want a viable online video model.
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Online Video’s 'Three Thirds' Problem

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Free online video was supposed to kill cable. But research shows most people are getting less interested in replacing cable with online video – not more. There are three reasons why, says Tom Nolle.
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Comparison Shopping for Broadband – Or Not

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Comparing Internet services is tough because service providers price and market their services based on a best-case scenario connection that most consumers will never enjoy.
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Better Web Video & the End of Net Neutrality

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Content Wars Will Define 2013

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2013 will see resolution of the conflict between content delivery systems such as Netflix and content providers, including broadcast TV networks.
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