Teri Takai, CIO, Department of Defense

thanks good day to all

Well thanks again everyone for tuning in and toughing it out! See you next time.

I got the sense it was a jump from one amazingly complex thing to another even more amazingly complex thing.

I was surprised at the great leap in complexity from California to the DoD.  You'd think running Cali's IT would be like running IT for a small nation.

I'm moving from my location back to my desk, but feel free to keep the discussion going. I shall return.

Mary what did you think about her comments on the California IT project?

True, @Ben.

:)

Thanks BenTremblay, hope you'll come back next time!

I think "battlefield" I think "ubiquitous data" ... and with that, adieu after my first event here.
Thanks and see you again!

@bentrem

@Mary - You think that problem is particularly true with government? It seems typical of large organizations / institutions / entitities.

I should correct myself: Change in government agencies.

:) Right, BT!

Perhaps change is associated with political affiliation?

 @Lin: I agree - openness and sociability are not normally considered part of the military's instinctive make-up.

Difficulty with change has always been a problem for the government. But I'm not sure why.

@Nicole - So "what is known" now includes "360 perimeter is required". :-)

Good point, lin crampton. Nothing is really "known" anymore. The threats are coming from everywhere.

They say that "hard cases make bad law". Maybe. I'd say the opposite in IT: hard cases set the standard.

@Ben: a dip in the stock price of a business thanks to stupid use of social media worries me less than a problem, say, in international relations - let alone a combat situation.

Thanks for tuning in, atc.

At some point a quantitative change becomes a qualitative change. "Arranging a meeting" can be trivial ... or a matter of life and death.

LOL. not sure much healthy is going on there.

I think that it is more than magnified problems -- the DoD has to start working with a different security paradigm.  They have always looked to secure physically, and a against a known treat profile.   I think they are going to have to throw out their traditional ideas about security.   That's difficult fore the government.

thanks for the presentation. Have a nice day.

Yes there are lots of "healthy" discussions going on in Congress.

@Kim - I suggest that "greatly magnified" is actually a bit misleading. I'd say that business/battlefield is in some ways apples/oranges.

Yes I would have loved to ask her more about cybersecurity if we weren't out of time.

The "healthy" discussion: as far as I can see, two opposed Senate lobbies are preventing legislation coming to the floor.  Healthy gridlock.

I thought her last comment about the potential for not being able to achieve cybersecurity goals was interesting and scary.

It was all interesting, but I think people in her sort of role try to avoid saying the unexpected.

What did you guys pick up on as the most interesting or unexpected commentary from her?

It makes sense that the military uses social and mobile, but all the usual problems must be greatly magnified.

:)

@Mary - A lot of what I do is about noticing loose threads, then pulling on them to see what unravels. Sort of like QA.
Little things aren't worth bother with ... big things are put off til later ... it's a great test of corporate culture.

Thanks BenTremblay. I can assure you our Webcasts usually run more smoothly!

ie that clouds could even represent better security for government networks.

Might be nice to have a follow-up presentation dealing with how DoD is dealing with security/privacy issues when they no longer have a defined permiter to secure.

"Mr Putin?  We'll have the president on the line shortly.  Could you hold please..."

But otherwise, very interesting. Some great points brought out

@Mary.  I'm scared now!

I hope we shouldn't read too much into it that the DoD had tech problems here.

I'm not sure what was wrong with the phone lines over at the DoD.

With her acess to the inside ... could do one like that every week.
Congrats for having reached her.

Interesting interview Nicole. Good job.

And thanks to Ms. Takai.

Interesting that one of our sole tech issues among so many interview was w/ the DoD!

@nicole on my end that is. rest assured.

Great presentation, in spite of technical difficulties.  What we did get was interesting.

heh ... harsh coming in, harsh going out. "Communicative gestures" folks. Presentation matters!
Thanks for this.
cheers

p.s. O'Reilly web-casts are exemplary.

@nicole you don't even want to know..

Wow, talk about cut-off.

Very sorry about all of the technical difficulties, listeners!

Hm... Cybersecurity may not get the priority it needs.

And most positive anticipation too! stay positive!

Anonymous: A threat. Also, did everyone note that Anonymous struck in China this week?

Even if they never succeed, by posing a threat they impose costs.

@Kim "Social media education must be a challenge.  We know the problems (NYC) police officers have had with being discreet on Facebook." they too have to find that equilibirum mentioned in "think through your social  poliicy" http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=1965&doc_id=241611 

So: w/respect to RIM, can't just say "BB is sufficiently secure" and have Combat Controllers use that. Apples / oranges.

I'm sorry, correct spelling is Takai. My bad

Ms. Tekai is back.

exactly

Internet as paradigm ... more than redundant.

Oh snap

We were talking mobile devices. I'm wondering if this may be behind the outage!

Bit worried about the DoD's phones.  Hope this doesn't happen with the "hotline."

I hear a voice

Whoops

s / downfield / downrange

Actually, sometimes cloud providers, given their centralized control and focus, might be more secure. It's conceivable, no?

Case in point? That would cost lives downfield.

oops

Business needs ... battlefield needs ... that would make an interesting Venn diagram.

It would be kind of worrying if the armed forces weren't using  mobile.  Are they one of Blackberry's last and best customers?

/me re-ponders FireTeam radio; Squad radio; Battalion radio ...

Social media education must be a challenge.  We know the problems (NYC) police officers have had with being discreet on Facebook.

Is there any IT initatiative to enhance the security framework against the curent posture against cyberwarface as it is which is pretty weak now.

You read my mind ... I was going to type "Q: can move to cloud actually result in increased security?" Yes seems counterintuitive.

Cost benefits versus Privacy Assurance , which is on higher priority?

that sounds cool @Kim 

@Kim Davis -- The DoD with their own app store?  That's... amazingly forward thinking.  I'm floored!

Factors in choosing private VS commercial cloud ... there's a paper to read ... or write.

Ooh, a report today:  "If all goes according to plan, the Defense Department is about a month and a half away from opening its own walled-off, DoD-only app store for secure mobile devices."  Like to hear more about that!

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=405&sid=2815845

@SMK: Any specifics on the Canadian IT situation you referenced?

ahh. Thanks @Mary!

I read recently that enterprises were producing mobile devices tailored to the DoD's requirements.  But I can't quite remember the details now.

Another SMK here? ;-)

What are the metrics do you use to measure the success of the IT Projetcs?

@Awilliams: Yes, agreed that BYOD is always a security risk.

I assumed.. thanks @smkinoshita!

@jwallance: Bring Your Own Device-ie having different smartphones on the go, not a standardized brand.

@SMK - "CDN Gov IT" far too general.

@jwallace -- Bring Your Own Device.

Hey.  I've heard horror stories about Canadian government I.T. but I think they've improved since.

That's an interesting question Mary. I would think that the security risks would be very high.

what is BYOD @Mary?

Context: Vivek Kundra's "Federal Cloud Computing Strategy" (FEB2011)

I'm wondering about devices... does the government support BYOD?

Hi there SMK!

Ping!

Staying with past practice rather than incurring cost of innovation ... false economy?

The government sector can also take on projects that are huge.

Government IT has often gotten a bad rap.

Federal IT reform has been an issue over the last several years.

$37B budget submission for FY2013. $38B actually spent.

I guess Ms Tekai has no previous experience with the military?  Is it strange to be a civilian in that environment?

Seems there are different priorities

scope / scale

And we are live with Teri Tekai

Government's phones are challenged!

Here we go (I hope).

Ah, I see, what looked like a blog post c/w comments is actually a chat interface?
#CognitiveErgonomics

Ms Tekai appears to have gone underground.  Briefly, I hope.

Hello!

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Hi batye. Welcome!

Yes indeed! We're very fortunate!

So excited we could get Ms Tekai for this.  Must be a busy woman.

Hello 

Welcome all. Thanks for being here.

@BenTrembly, the radio player appears at 2 PM sharp when the show goes live.

Hoping for some questions about cybersecurity and the infrastructure - the Senate appears to be going nowhere with that.  Once you have two competing pieces of legislation, the works get glued up.

You'll see the audio at the top of the page when we go live at 2.00pm.  Welcome! 

... got the notification ... see the page ... don't see the event.
I think there's something wrong about how you have this designed.

Biometrics from 3 sources, retna scan, finger print scan and voice scan on a computer. This information is encryped in a 256 AES encryption and then a form of encryped checksum?

All 3 items can be done on/from the laptop/pc/mac and completed in nano time to us humans. 

Thanks Paul Bertino