The Macrosite for News, Analysis and Opinion about the Future of the Internet
Comments
Current display:       newest comments first       chronological order   threaded
< Previous   Page 3 of 4   Next >
chuckgregory
IQ Crew
Thursday January 31, 2013 10:48:28 AM
no ratings

Getting back to the original question, I think Mozilla may very well have missed their best window of opportunity on this. They seem to have lost their edge. We keep on getting new versions of Firefox that don't seem much different from the old ones; things keep breaking without gettting fixed. I'm not too enthused about this new venture.

abdlah
IQ Crew
Thursday January 31, 2013 2:38:07 AM
no ratings

Alan Reiter,

Yes the placement and pricing of the new OS would definitely be an interesting one. Like you I would want to see if it catches on and what impact it would have on the market vis-a-vis penetration and pricing.

Alan Reiter
Thinkernetter
Wednesday January 30, 2013 10:29:49 PM
no ratings

Hi mtechie (Michelle),

There's a tremendous amount of activity in the mobile OS sphere. iOS, Android, Windows Phone, bada, Tizen, Sailfish, BB10, Unbuntu, Firefox and more. If Windows Phone hasn't been doing so poorly, I'd wonder whether BB10 had much of a chance. But with the poor market penetration of Windows Phone, BB10 has more of a chance, and cellular operators would like a successful third mobile OS.

mtechie
IQ Crew
Wednesday January 30, 2013 10:19:49 PM
no ratings
@Alan thanks. Mine won't be published until tomorrow or maybe next week. I contributed to a BlackBerry 10 post that should go up tomorrow.

There's a lot going on in mobile right now. It seems like we were only talking iOS and Android for so long. BlackBerry has been off to the side while Windows Phone plugs along.
Alan Reiter
Thinkernetter
Wednesday January 30, 2013 10:12:30 PM
no ratings

Hi mtechie (Michelle),

I'd like to read your blog, if you include a link. The Ubuntu blog will be posted this week or next week. And, I'm also writing a blog about the new BlackBerry 10 phones.

HTML5 apps are becoming increasingly popular, but they also have a way to go to compare to local apps. Both types of apps have value, and have advantages and disadvantages.

mtechie
IQ Crew
Wednesday January 30, 2013 10:04:48 PM
no ratings
@Alan I can't wait to read what you have to say about Ubuntu for Phones. I have an upcoming blog about them too but you do a much better job of predicting the market for such things. I'm still not sure about the Firefox OS. Another commenter brought up the cost of data - that's a valid point I would like Firefox to address. I also wonder about the support of the OS and how that will be handled. All this with a new BlackBerry OS and you've got quite a mix of phones to choose... App developers will have a lot of platforms to work on. I think HTML5 apps will probably become more popular as they seem to be available on all devices, even BlackBerry 10.
Alan Reiter
Thinkernetter
Wednesday January 30, 2013 9:53:03 PM
no ratings

Hi Kicheko,

You raise a good point about the cost of wireless Internet in emerging markets. In some markets, the cost of data is relatively inexpensive, but in others it is quite expensive. Also, cellular data speeds can significantly slower in some emerging markets, such as using GSM or EDGE speeds.

The Firefox OS relies on Web apps, so without access to the Internet through cellular or WiFi, the value of the OS would be greatly diminished.

This is similar to the Chromebook, although many Chrome OS Web apps also have features that can be used without Internet access, such as opening and editing Google Docs and Google Slides while offline, and then uploading the files when Internet connectivity becomes available.

Alan Reiter
Thinkernetter
Wednesday January 30, 2013 9:42:09 PM
no ratings

Hi Mitch Wagner,

I haven't read much about Firefox OS Web apps that are specifically for IT. However, since enterprises are increasingly using HTML5 and cloud services, I assume that there are ways to implement IT policies. Chromebooks can be managed via Google cloud services.

I really appreciate the advantages of my Chromebook, while realizing that it's not for everyone. If every feature (or most features) is/are accessed via the Web, security could be better than, say, Android phones. Chromebooks do have a small amount of internal memory and an SD card slot for accessing data that's transferred, such as videos, music and documents. Firefox OS handsets could conceivably work the same way.

By the way, Google promotes sandboxing in the Chrome OS as a security feature. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if virtualization could be accomplished on Firefox OS through Web services.

This is still new stuff, but for now, I'd think the Ubuntu mobile OS, which is the subject of an upcoming blog, would have more IT features because Canonical is specifically talking about that.

Alan Reiter
Thinkernetter
Wednesday January 30, 2013 9:33:25 PM
no ratings

Hi abdlah,

It will be interesting to see in which markets Firefox OS is available. I'm also interested in what the retail prices will be and whether they will indeed be significantly cheaper than traditional smartphones.

Alan Reiter
Thinkernetter
Wednesday January 30, 2013 9:30:06 PM
no ratings

Hi Alison Diana,

Mozilla certainly understands the importance of mobile, which is in many circumstances replacing the desktop but, at a minimum supplementing it. It needs to establish a presence in mobile, although it's cellular browser hasn't been especially popular.

So producing an entire mobile OS is one way to help establish its presence. It's also a way to promote Mozilla's vision of open standards.

Smartphones are still a minority share of the market in many countries. Also, they are relatively expensive. Mozilla and partners like Telefonica hope to expand their influence with less expensive devices, especially in emerging markets.

A key question is whether a Web-only OS can satisfy or even delight users. Are there sufficient HTML5 apps and will they work well enough to replace traditional apps stored locally? So far, HTML5 apps are useful, but far from replacing local apps.

If all the stars align properly, Firefox OS has a chance to succeed in certain markets. But it's a big gamble.

< Previous   Page 3 of 4   Next >


The ThinkerNet does not reflect the views of TechWeb. The ThinkerNet is an informal means of communication to members and visitors of the Internet Evolution site. Individual authors are chosen by Internet Evolution to blog. Neither Internet Evolution nor TechWeb assume responsibility for comments, claims, or opinions made by authors and ThinkerNet bloggers. They are no substitute for your own research and should not be relied upon for trading or any other purpose.
a moderated blogosphere of internet experts
David Weldon
David Weldon   5/22/2013   7 comments
In the 1970 science fiction thriller Colossus: The Forbin Project, two giant supercomputers from the United States and Soviet Union secretly join forces to take control of the collective nuclear might of the two countries. In the film, the two machines discover each other's existence, communicate back-and-forth, share their collective data, and cut their human creators out of the process. It is the ultimate example of machine-to-machine communications, or M2M.
Jon Carter
Jon Carter   5/21/2013   18 comments
most recent post: Joanne Goldman... Thanks, Mitch.  
Paul Korzeniowski
The smartphone market reached a significant milestone, a breakthrough that may cause vendors to celebrate but could strain the capabilities of IT service desks.
Maria Korolov
Maria Korolov   5/21/2013   14 comments
In the fall of 2011, around 160,000 students in 190 countries enrolled in a Stanford-sponsored online course about artificial intelligence. About 23,000 completed the course and got certificates, including 248 who got a perfect score. The university offered the same course the old-fashioned way to students sitting in Stanford classrooms. None of the those students got a perfect score.
Joe Stanganelli
As Mitch Wagner discussed today, Yahoo is acquiring Tumblr. The big Internet debate at the moment is whether Tumblr will be good or bad for Yahoo. Regardless of their stances on the future of Yahoo itself, many claim that Yahoo will somehow ruin Tumblr.
IETV: the thinkerNet on film
5
of
Kim Davis
Big-Data Can’t Always Sell Wine

5|21|13   |   2:23   |   3 comments


Whole Foods Global Wine Purchaser Doug Bell told me about some of the constraints on using analytics in the US wine market.
Paul J. Fleuranges
Digital Signage Keeps NYC Subway Straphangers on Track

5|6|13   |   3:51   |   No comments


New York's Metropolitan Transit Authority is conducting a pilot test of digital kiosks to guide subway users to where they want to go more efficiently and at lower cost.
Kim Davis
Fast Forward to the Future

4|23|13   |   2:29   |   20 comments


A look back at tech writing in the 90s makes us wonder where enterprise IT will be 20 years from now.
Mitch Wagner
Google Launches Its Most Depressing Service Yet

4|15|13   |   2:59   |   10 comments


Google's new Inactive Account Manager lets you control how Google disposes of your accounts when you die.
Second Shooter
Argument Over Top-Level Domains Is 'Stupid'

4|11|13   |   2:07   |   3 comments


The whole Amazon.reader debate is a double-stupid. It's stupid to think that there's any e-book buyer who doesn't know Amazon's URL, and it was stupider to let ICANN launch the whole free-form TLD initiative to start with.
Kim Davis
Ladies, Your Tablet Awaits

3|21|13   |   2:22   |   37 comments


ePad Femme is the world’s first tablet “made exclusively for women.”
Wisdom of the Big Chair
NFC Moves Into the Mainstream

3|20|13   |   2:16   |   No comments


While NFC's original goal was to enhance mobile commerce applications, it is finding its way into a number of other uses, which is creating both opportunity as well as challenges for IT departments.
Wisdom of the Big Chair
Integrating Security Into Your Cloud Contract

3|19|13   |   3:35   |   No comments


Enterprises would like to move to cloud computing but are hesitant because they are concerned about providers’ ability to secure company data. Here are some tips that help to ensure that if breaches occur, the business is not left holding the bag.
Brian Baron
How Edmunds.com Collects Customer Information

3|18|13   |   1:15   |   No comments


Edmunds separates customers into segments based on the info it collects on its site and from partners, and uses that to push out custom content, said Brian Baron, director of business analytics for Edmunds.com, at Predictive Analytics Innovation Summit.
Brian Baron
How Edmunds.com Uses Analytics to Customize Site

3|14|13   |   0:47   |   No comments


The automotive website uses propensity modeling to target ads and customer registration forms, said Brian Baron, director of business analytics for Edmunds.com, at Predictive Analytics Innovation Summit.
an IBM information resource
sponsored content
big blue blog
Alison Diana
Alison Diana   5/21/2013   1 comment
Ushering in a new era of cognitive computing systems, IBM announced today the IBM Watson Engagement Advisor, a technology breakthrough that allows brands to crunch big data in record time to transform the way they engage clients in key functions such as customer service, marketing, and sales.
an IBM information resource
sponsored content
Expert Integrated Systems: Changing the Experience & Economics of IT
In this e-book, we take an in-depth look at these expert integrated systems -- what they are, how they work, and how they have the potential to help CIOs achieve dramatic savings while restoring IT's role as business innovator.

READ THIS eBOOK
your weekly update of news, analysis, and
opinion from Internet Evolution - FREE!

REGISTER HERE
Wanted! Site Moderators
Internet Evolution is looking for a handful of readers to help moderate the message boards on our site – as well as engaging in high-IQ conversation with the industry mavens on our thinkerNet blogosphere. The job comes with various perks, bags of kudos, and GIANT bragging rights. Interested?

Please email: moderators@internetevolution.com
Internet Evolution – not for thickies
Keep Critical Data With a Knowledge Management System
Taimoor Zubair
Fortune 500 companies lose at least
$31.5 billion a year by failing to share knowledge. A Knowledge Management System (KMS) can help companies significantly reduce these costs.

CLICK FOR MORE
M2M: Rise of the Machines? Not Yet
David Weldon
In the 1970 science fiction thriller
Colossus: The Forbin Project, two giant supercomputers from the United States and Soviet Union secretly join forces to take control of the collective nuclear might of the two countries. In the film, the two machines discover each other's existence, communicate back-and-forth, share their collective data, and cut their human creators out of the process. It is the ultimate example of machine-to-machine communications, or M2M.

CLICK FOR MORE
M2M: Rise of the Machines? Not Yet
David Weldon
In the 1970 science fiction thriller
Colossus: The Forbin Project, two giant supercomputers from the United States and Soviet Union secretly join forces to take control of the collective nuclear might of the two countries. In the film, the two machines discover each other's existence, communicate back-and-forth, share their collective data, and cut their human creators out of the process. It is the ultimate example of machine-to-machine communications, or M2M.

CLICK FOR MORE
M2M: Rise of the Machines? Not Yet
David Weldon
In the 1970 science fiction thriller
Colossus: The Forbin Project, two giant supercomputers from the United States and Soviet Union secretly join forces to take control of the collective nuclear might of the two countries. In the film, the two machines discover each other's existence, communicate back-and-forth, share their collective data, and cut their human creators out of the process. It is the ultimate example of machine-to-machine communications, or M2M.

CLICK FOR MORE
M2M: Rise of the Machines? Not Yet
David Weldon
In the 1970 science fiction thriller
Colossus: The Forbin Project, two giant supercomputers from the United States and Soviet Union secretly join forces to take control of the collective nuclear might of the two countries. In the film, the two machines discover each other's existence, communicate back-and-forth, share their collective data, and cut their human creators out of the process. It is the ultimate example of machine-to-machine communications, or M2M.

CLICK FOR MORE
Yahoo Needs to Break Tumblr in Order to Fix It
Joe Stanganelli
As
Mitch Wagner discussed today, Yahoo is acquiring Tumblr. The big Internet debate at the moment is whether Tumblr will be good or bad for Yahoo. Regardless of their stances on the future of Yahoo itself, many claim that Yahoo will somehow ruin Tumblr.

CLICK FOR MORE