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Kim Davis
Thinkernetter
Wednesday January 16, 2013 11:24:05 AM

...there should be a massive exodus from the copyright-locked journals to more open publishers, but for some reason the business models for open journals haven't caught on the right mix yet.

The problem, which lies at the heart of this racket, is not that researchers can't publish in "open journals," on websites, or wherever they like.  Some do.  But colleges only recognize publications in certain, designated journals as counting towards tenure.

I understand that peer review is vital, but it's not a sufficient excuse for the status quo.

Mashka
Researcher
Wednesday January 16, 2013 9:45:46 AM
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I think that's a tradegy of a person who lives " out of the system". Though  on the first sight it looks, that it's easier to be  different now, but it's doubtful. It's easier to be different in the frames that goverment defines- for those whose behavior is  dangerous from the "system's point of view"-  the punishment is  too severe.The Matrix has no mercy.

lin crampton
IQ Crew
Tuesday January 15, 2013 7:37:14 PM

@mhhfive - not sure that any healthcare system can make depression disappear.  Drugs can take the edge off, but they don't eradicate depression. If you take the right antibiotics, you can clear up an infection.  Not so with depression.

If someone is looking at decades in a federal pen, enormous fines and legal fees, I don't think there are any medical treatments that could make them feel good about their future.

 

mhhfive
IQ Crew
Tuesday January 15, 2013 5:24:08 PM

Aaron Swartz will be accuately missed on the internet. Hopefully, our healthcare system will be able to better address the needs of depression and avert more cases where people can be pushed over the edge. 

mhhfive
IQ Crew
Tuesday January 15, 2013 5:21:42 PM

The academic journal publishing industry is really crazy -- what other industry has its main product subsidized by the government and then also protected by copyright? Disney would LOVE to be able to sit on these knowledge archives that are largely paid-for by NIH/DOE/etc research grants and academic insitutions.

It's a wonder that PLOS journals aren't more popular with academics... there should be a massive exodus from the copyright-locked journals to more open publishers, but for some reason the business models for open journals haven't caught on the right mix yet.

Kim Davis
Thinkernetter
Tuesday January 15, 2013 2:46:07 PM

Not to digress too far from the subject of Swartz's loss, but this academic publishing racket really is scandalous.

I was reminded of an article I found a few months ago on JSTOR.  It was published in 1965.  The author, who almost certainly made no money from it in the first place (academic journal), is dead.  The journal in which it appeared has ceased publication.  JSTOR would like to charge me $10 to download it.

Why not let this information go?

Mitch Wagner
Thinkernetter
Tuesday January 15, 2013 12:30:11 PM
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Innovation requires a free exchange of ideas. Systems like academic publishing and JSTOR that attempt to firewall that information stifle innovation and progress. 

stotheco
IQ Crew
Tuesday January 15, 2013 6:11:15 AM

There are many things to be sad and disappointed about in this case. The saddest is obviously the loss of Aaron Swartz, a brilliant mind who could have contributed so much to society. I forgot where I saw the headline, but apparently, hackers are getting sentences that are harsher than what rapists are slapped with. That's already alarming as it is; and if you look at the situation and the system of scientific publications that Kim outlined, you'd agree that they were way too hard (and unnecessarily so) on Aaron.

May he rest in peace.

Kim Davis
Thinkernetter
Monday January 14, 2013 5:26:30 PM

I'd like to add a little bit about academic journals, which I've criticized here before as an absurdly anachronistic bastion of the publishing industry.  I called it a "racket."

Academic researchers do not publish papers for commercial gain (for research funding, sure, but that's not the same thing). They do so to increase the store of human knowledge.  Many -- perhaps most -- researchers would be happy to share results freely, especially now that the Internet provides such a convenient forum.

However, in order to secure or maintain tenure, academics are expected to publish regularly in designated journals.  Nobody buys these journals except the libraries of the colleges granting tenure.  The journals are hugely expensive.  Since libraries started running out of room to store this landfill, JSTOR has become the go-to repository.

In order to maintain the revenue for publishes, JSTOR--itself a non-profit--charges for access to these journals.

It's tragic that anyone should be persecuted for undermining this ridiculous system.

Mitch Wagner
Thinkernetter
Monday January 14, 2013 4:21:29 PM

Thanks, xianrenaud. 

70 years ago, Richard Feynman habitually picked locks at Los Alamos while part of the nuclear research program there. Like Swartz, he was trying to point out institutional failures; unlike Swartz, Feyman was tolerated and later went on to become one of the most brlliant scientists of the 20th Century. I fear we're losing that spirit of innovation and our humanity too. 

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