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DrT
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Thursday January 10, 2013 6:26:01 PM
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Maybe we should utilize two-factor authentication when it comes to applications that need to be secure at this point. Also, Win8 comes with picture password, that may one way going away from character password.
Mr. Roques
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Thursday January 10, 2013 5:21:38 PM
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I 100% agree with Michael, when dealing with the REAL bad guys, I seriously doubt they are trying to find out "Pete-from-accounting's" password they simply go for the database server and get everything they want.

For personal information, lets say trying to access someone's gmail account that would be the case but even then, installing a keylogger might be even easier.

Kim Davis
Thinkernetter
Wednesday January 9, 2013 5:23:27 PM
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I certainly find the frequency with which I am having to request a password re-set increasing.  It's almost at the point where it's easier to change passwords every time than look for where I wrote them down.

Stephen Lawton
Thinkernetter
Wednesday January 9, 2013 1:00:36 PM
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You are correct in that many of the bad guys will want to steal the corporate database. However, there is a lot to mine that might not have made it to the database yet. Projects in process, private emails, notes and such still reside on user systems. There also is private info that resides on user systems. 

The value of data is what someone will pay for it. Certainly the biggest win is when the attacker is able to access and steal the corporate database, but there is still incremental, and sometimes significant, value in data stored on users' machines.

Michael P. Kassner
Thinkernetter
Wednesday January 9, 2013 9:40:01 AM
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I wrote an article a few years ago that went viral and got my source a lot of airtime. The title was Are users right in rejecting security advise

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/security/are-users-right-in-rejecting-security-advice/3275

I'll share an example. That of being required to change your password after a certain length of time. What do you think that accomplishes? Absolutely nothing.

To do any good, you would have to change your password everytime you log in. The bad guys find your password they need it for 10 seconds until they escalate rights or create their own user. 

Cormick did the math and the time and money lost due to just messing with new passwords was quite a lot. Passwords work, for their intended purpose, keeping the curious out. The bad guys don't even bother. 

 

 

 

Alison Diana
Thinkernetter
Wednesday January 9, 2013 9:30:26 AM
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So does that mean individuals and companies are spending too much unnecessary time focusing on 'secure' passwords, Michael? What is the answer, other than better security for the networks and databases themselves?

Alison Diana
Thinkernetter
Wednesday January 9, 2013 9:28:45 AM
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That's an interesting point, Mr. R, and I wonder what that answer is. Stephen - ThinkerNetters: Does anyone know the answer to Mr. R's question? 

Alison Diana
Thinkernetter
Wednesday January 9, 2013 9:27:35 AM
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These copy editing errors are now corrected, Stephen.

Michael P. Kassner
Thinkernetter
Wednesday January 9, 2013 9:13:52 AM
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User passwords are not even a consideration for the bad guys. They moved to bigger and better things. Why mess with a user/password combination that has limited rights, when they can attack a vulnerable database server and get  the keys to the kingdom and the entire database. 

The issues surrounding user passwords are immaterial. 

StephenLawton
Rank: Cave Painter
Tuesday January 8, 2013 7:24:00 PM
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In the original post of this story, I incorrectly noted that sha512crypt is supported by Microsoft. It is not. It is supported by Linux, FreeBSD, and other similar distributions. My apologies for the error.

Also, due to an editing error, an incorrect link was supplied for Stricture Consulting Group. The company does not, as of this posting, have an active web site. However, Jeremi Gosney can be reached via Twitter at @jmgosney.

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