how do the disruptors create a radically different value proposition?

thank you!

do you see age of users a factor in adoption of "cloud"?

do you think social media will become the most powerful enabler?

any preference on the frameworks

just catching up

Thanks Craig for the wonderfull presentation

IS cloud is reliabile in all the sense

if tomarrow, some thing happens, what would be the recover plans for cloud

whether industry is making use of cloud in its full context is important

thats a good question-"Where the cloud is taking us"

Hi Craig

To call my own...

I got nobody...

I am so lonely....

Lonely....

Guess i'll just stream and dl the slides...and listen all by myself

Crap, missed again

thanks again; bye all

Thanks

Thanks

"see" you all soon..in the meantime..see you all "in community" :-)

thanx

BOOM

thank you!

thanks great!

thanks

Thanks !

thanks for a great session

Thank you ! Until the next class.

@nestorba:  I believe we will....

@Kim. Are we done?

I hope we all will get credit for having been here!

I missed the show?  OOPS.  Had wrong time zone loaded into schedule.  Sorry I missed it!

Great point, labnuke

Another driving factor may be, same as IS/IT outsourcing, the expertise to develop apps in house.

many of the cost savings are missing the element of bandwidth and bits - additional capacity & reliable connections are required for cloud services and then the cloud provider may charge you for the bits up/down and stored - those are often hard to estimate early in the TCO process

@Kim; Thanks!!!

@Ilan: I understand we'll get an email....I am counting on it LOL :-)

Terrific, Kim. Look forward to hearing the rest of Craig's great presentation.

great presentation!

The archived show should be available right after we're done here.

Yes, as you said, Craig, cost seems to becoming one of the lesser motivators now that IT and business are discovering so many other reasons they to adopt cloud

and speaking of cost savings I assume we get that starbucks card mailed to use LOL?

I still would luv to get the archive to share with colleagues....

...we have to be smart about its' adoption....and craig's insights have been invaluble....

Will we receive an e-mail with the archive link, once that is ready? 

anyone who ignored the cloud..does so at their peril.   

I think it is still hard to say the effects on global economic conditions on cloud adoption.. since cloud adoption is driving by multiple factors.. not just cost reduction, as an example

Very good.  Thanks.

Thanks Prof Craig, Kim & Mitch. I will listen to the archive later today..

I guess once you trust whomever is managing your cloud if you do not do it yourself you are at their mercy

Craig, do you have a global perspective?  We've been seeing slower cloud adoption in Europe, and especially the UK, than the US. 

And the area of business and/or IT driving cloud adoption... will we see less 'rogue' clouds, then, because of both these trends you've found?

thanks again Craig - good pt. about integration of clouds being most important to overcome security concerns

It's also interesting that you show we're moving quickly away from pilots.

Thank you and have great day!

right .. integrating clouds.. but also integrating cloud into the broader it fabric

Bye, all.

By integration concerns, you mean figuring out how cloud integrates with existing systems?  Integrating private and public cloud?

That's interesting, Craig. So will open standards be more important, then?

Some things good for future investment!

many cloud services charge not only for the platfor/environment but for the storage and movement of bits - they get you for coming, going and staying!

i think security concerns will give way to integration concerns..

Oh, and Greg, the slides were very informative and we really appreciated the Notes! Thanks again.

:)

me too!

Will the security concern ever disappear?

I'll go to see the archive.

each time I learn something

:) thanks Craig 

I think that PaaS has the greatest opportunity to transform companies.. it allows for a level of standardization on developing applications.. but still allows customization and innovation in the final application that is presented..

How is it likely to affect higher education - seems some institutions are headed that way, but there is concern for privacy. 

I think it was yesterday's WSJ mentioned that ATT is going to invest $14Billion in upgrades in the next 2 years or so - a huge number in a relatively short period

Well done! Craig

Thanks for the lecture/ppt, Craig.

good charts 

Craig, do you have the sense that one service model (SaaS, PaaS, etc) is having more effect on re-shaping businesses than others?

thanks for the charts, neither firefox nor ie produced any  sound, will check the archive, bye

One thing that continues to fascinate me about cloud is its flexibility. So you hear about non-tech companies, like construction firms for example, getting into offering cloud-based services. Are there any industries you think will be offering cloud-based services in the future who aren't doing so today?

good info thank you

the idea of latency and growth of cloud is not one i have spent time on.. but it a worthy topic to dig into for sure..

Thank you!

Interesting!

http://www.att.com/network/ but Verizon showed more cities being ready to be added

I heard recently we have slower Internet access than even China - we still have lots of infrastructure work to do, I guess.  It seems like the pendulum swings from centralized (mainframes) IT to decentralized  (servers) IT and back again (cloud).  Maybe I've been in the business too long.  Keeps it interesting though! 

Well, will what happen next.

That makes a lot of sense, Craig. And do you see that expanding beyond AT&T into partnerships with other telcos, perhaps? Or similar agreements between telcos and cloud experts?

I hadn't seen the AT&T news.  That's very interesting.

thanks

Clearly teleco providers have moved agressively into cloud.. as an example, we just launched a joint alliance with AT&T to align our enterprise cloud with their network.. 

bye

I know Homeland Security is doing a lot with cloud, in terms of improving the whole customer experience. And that, of course, is part of the fed's push toward cloud. Are there examples you can share with us that you see as being particularly leading?

How much time left for the show?

yes, good points being made.  Too bad I can't hear them!

Craig: something which has come up several times - is limited bandwidth going to retard rapid development of cloud?

What is the priority for Tier 1 carriers (e.g. Verizon and AT&T) to enhance and expand cloud services over the next hree year period?

Yes, tons of information in the slides. 

okay, will wait for the archive then.  Thanks!

Yes, me too! The PowerPoint was great. Really well put together. Lots of food for thought!

Will North America finally get a 21st century Internet Super Highway sometime soon?

yes.. i agree.. the playing field is leveling..  we can see smaller business gaining access to resources once only available to the largest of enterprises..

So - I guess we'll just wait for the archived version.  Too bad.  Isn't technology wonderful! 

With connectivity issues like this, I wonder what the future of the cloud is.

Thank you Craig for presenting and for the informative slide pack.

yep.. i am happy to stick around..

Thanks Craig. Was really looking forward to it. Have to play it tomorrow.

Craig, what we heard was very interesting. I found it fascinating how companies are using/going to use cloud to improve the customer experience. It seems as though this will really help midsize companies compete against much bigger firms... do you agree?

So it was not just my connection.

Technical problem!

The archived version of the audio should be available immediately.

Thanks for the patience all. We had a technical problem with the audio. You can listen to the playback later and Craig is availble now for questions. 

thanks Craig

Craig - sounded good while it was on. Will listen when available on recorded archives.

We're investigating what happened with the audio.  Certainly none of us are happy about it.  Craig's talk was recorded and will be available in archive.  I could hear it on direct feed and it's well worth a listen.

I'll catch the archives

I will check the archive later.

The presentation is informative just can't here.

@ren the audio broke middle of the session

And the cyborgs

Craig, shall we drop off?  Try again another time?

well.. i kept going .. so i think it was recorded!

Guess they disconnected the cave painters.

audio is off

Audio is absent again

sorry folks.. not sure what happened!

Guess I'll check the archive tomorrow.

bye all...

I never even got an envelope (can you say Charlie Brown)!

Running latest version of flash player - still no audio.

i only got the envelope with a big hole in it

last time my 7dee pin was lost in the mail

thx, docelder. that makes sense

See ya Docelde

hope it get fixed before next week's series

Arrrgh! And now I *need* that Starbucks more than ever!

I'll check the archives tomorrow!  Bye y'all

Avast mateys; we arved been boarded by a rogue cloud an ad the audio pirated away.  Perchance they could use Cisco webconference in the future.   Swab the bilges and scuppers mateys.

i thought it was just me! 8-)

No reason the speaker shouldn't be available shortly for online chat.

disintermediate means to possibly change or cut out some middle men in the value chain, usually

Baked alaskan

Tomas -- I think you can still post questions for the speaker.  Does anyone know if the speaker is coming online to answer questions? 

still nada

Hopefully the archive won't have 20 minutes of blank tape

No audio here

i'd like to listen to know what "disintermediate" means (slide 17)

Is this going to be rescheduled for a later time perhaps?   I only have so much time I can block off today.   Also, while we have a good speaker, it would be nice for him to touch on a a few concrete examples when he starts describing concepts.  I feel like I am seeing a lot of buzzwords in the slides  but not a lot of specifics in the talk.

No audio here either

UNfortunately this means I will just have to go back to work!

did anybody try to click on the remote? try another channel?

My grades say I passed anyway, won't need the extra credit 

becalmed?

nada

Sorry, but everybody will get "INCOMPLETE", not totes either!

Not ready for primetime

nada

so, is this to be rescheduled?  Or, we need to wait for a while?

still no audio yet!

so *this* is "where the cloud is taking us" ... LOL

is this application running on a cloud?  

and now our geust lecturer - marcel marceu

Is this where the cloud is taking us?

LOL.. yeah break out the swag!

dead in the water  here ...

And you wonder why we go to rogue clouds and IT  :-)

must be like the office365 outage on Tues

@Mitch   please post when audio returns

At least the slides are impressive!

i ain't got no time for this

cloud 9

I just want my Diploma  ;-)

audio went to a diffrent cloud? :)

Refreshed browser window, pushed play, still no audio...

The audio is currently down.

I hope I still get my classy lookin tote!  :(

@django1   So you brought all the audio down?

Homer Simpson:  Start the movie! start the movie!

We are still recording audio.

I spoke too soon, refresh and play and even close the tab and relogin did not get the audio back

We're having a technical problem.  Sorry.

Aerosmith: Just push play

it started on slide 3????

well we can look at slide deck while we wait

Hopefully the archive will have the full audio.

is the webex still going?  Audio dropped all of a sudden, can't even hit the play button

i guess all of us did

me too

who dropped the cone of silence on us? ;)

F% = audio button gone; yikes

there is no audio

i lost the audio

I pushed play, it worked!

yow!

the sound of silence

What happened?

at least I'm not alone on this... :)

I thought it was just me.

everything stopped

lost audio as well... and can't press the play-button right now...

I raised my buffering size and that worked for a while - not now though

Audio gone..

gone here too.

Lost audio

audio gone (again)

no audio

I was just reading Information week earlier: The Feds are targeting a 25% move of the $80 billion federal IT budget to the cloud

no audio

audio gone for me too

no sound now...what happened?

player stopped all of a sudden

where did the autio go????

now audio is gone...

lost audio

oops audio gone?

Gotta have a Cloud Picture and analogy these days

clouds drifting in and out of the ecosystems.... nice metaphor

Latest Flash and IE solved my audio problem with these webcasts

aggregation?

Audio drifting in & out ( using Safari )

@docelder thanks

Audio is coming okay in chrome.

@mfortin & @geoSEAN Today I was able to resolve the "...hitting play" issues by hitting play, immediately hitting pause, waiting 5 secs, then hitting play again.

could that be a flash problem?

audio finally working.   earlier suggestion of pause and play seemed to help.   What is a cave painter; I feel a little insulted by this.  

@Craig - do you see that companies are more adopting of cloud storage for employee Y:\ drives or they using storage and processing capabilities for serious "sensitive data?" 

Audoi comes in 5 second segments? (IE9)

Slide 10

Yes, rogue clouds have been a problem.  Now IT is more accepting of cloud, I wonder whether that issue is decreasing

audio keeps going out.  really?

Had to restart session what slide are we on?

thanks

rouge clouds are bad news for IT

hi

Thanks for presenting Craig.

@sspclan   Today I was able to resolve the "...hitting play" issues by hitting play, immediately hitting pause, waiting 5 secs, then hitting play again.

I have no audio either and I'm using Firefox.

The shift from products to services is fascinating.

Business Leaders always drive adoption with the purse strings, IT has to learn how to speak their language

This bodes well for midsize organizations, I should think.

Don't business leaders already drive cloud adoption, through so-called "rogue clouds" -- signing up for cloud services without the blessing of IT?

HI

slide 7

You advance your own slides.  If you have problems with audio, even after hitting play/refresh, it may be a problem with Internet Explorer, or possibly a firewall.

Yes, I think Craig is right on the money here.

Notes are good!

Audio is good here.

Ah notes in .ppt, I appreciate that later!

Must keep hitting play   :(

has this started yet?

have to click play

Interesting results, re: collaboration

Audio is not working.

hope audio works

Advance your self

I hit the play button under the class title at the top of the screen and BOOM.....I have audio!!!!

clicking on the audio play results in few seconds of dialogue and then stops.   Will catch the archive recorded version.

Audio fine here

do we advance the slide ourself?

If you're unable to hear audio, be sure you clicked the Play button above. If if that doesn't work, please refresh your browser. If that doesn't work, shut down and restart the browser. If that doesn't work, switch browsers. If that doesn't work, it's possible you're dialing in from a corporate network with a firewall that blocks this stream, in which case you'll have to log in and listen to the archive later. 

Ok this audio is annoying

Downloading the deck

Mine keeps stopping, so I am continuallly pressing play.

lin crampton - Forgive me for a dumb question, but did you click the Play button. It's not autoplay. 

@xre-anyone who says cloud is gonna be the end all and be all is a salesman!!!

i dont have audio either

Cloud has introduce a whole new way of doing business and best business practices 

no audio or video?

I am not getting audio either

Forgot to hit play again!

Audio?

same here @cluebrick

but i refreshed my browser and for some reason i think it fixed it

am i the only one not getting audio?

Audio is fine ( using IE )

Woo it's started. I think the cloud is part of the future but not the end all be all

i am ready

audio intermittent

This is what interests me: how cloud will reshape business management and practices.

here we go!

enjoy

Savannah is in the house

hope to learn a lot out of this webinar

I am in sunny Phoenix

got audio

Always enjoy sessions about looking ahead to the future.

hello all

And we're off.

we have audio

Hello

@django-yeah 7 days to turkey day!!!

hi

Afternoon everyone

Hello All

great

hello all

and now we're live

And the audio is live! Hit the play button above.

Hi @aum, 7 days and it will be turkey day, yehey!

hello everyone

good day

Good Morning Everybody

hows this thursday treating u guys??

thanks @Kim! (these automagic techmologies confuse me a bit - I'm used to launching stuff)

Good morning, good afternoon to y'all

Hi @dirk, Hi other 7DEErs!

If audio doesn't start automatically, click the play button.  If that doesn't work, refresh.  But wait until you see it.

@Pamela, and everyone: At the top of the hour, you will see the audio magically appear at top of page.

@pamela , at exactly 2pm EST, the audio control will appear above . Push play and you will hear the audio

@pamela - audio in about 3 minutes

@pamela - it shows in a few minutes when the audio starts.

looking forward to this

@django1 - You're in the Christmas mood i see.

@all - Hello

hi there. i'm a serious geek, but all the links i click on take me here (not to audio or a webinar). help?

hello all

Happy Thursday, ThinkerNetters, IQ Crew, and members of the Internet Evolution community!

Greetings-may your bytes flow as a lazy cloud on a bright sunny day!

Good morning

ola

Good Afternoon

Hello

Good afternoon from overcast Southern Cal

Oh the weather outside not too hateful,
and I downloaded the slides so full,
let the presentation go, let it go let it go...

ready to learn!

greets

HI

While you are waiting!  :)

http://eo.ucar.edu/webweather/cloudmatch.html

Greetings from sunny California

Hello all!

hello

G'Day

Greeting from southern CA.

Good afternoon.

Good afternoon

Good afternoon

Hi all

Hello hello!

Hello...

(I got trouble with sign in so far...)

hi all!

hey

hello all

hi

morning/afternoon all

hola

waiting...

Hi everbody

Greetings

Hello and Happy Thursday...looking forward to Craig's insights.

hi all.

every few minutes

drops the audio feed

I think I have a bad connection, which

Great to be here with an exciting group of panelists!

go smoothly

I hope today's audio portion will

hi everyone,

Hi, everyone.

hello to all

I guess I am a "thinkernetter"..  I have probably been called worse...

Hi all

HI all

Hello everyone,

HI

Good morning Thursday

a lot of information to digest in today's slide deck, possible indigestion

got to go,  lunch, you know ...