Kim: If I was in a heavily regulated area, such as medicine, I'd be very careful about which cloud vendors I was using, and would pick industry-specific ones that were familiar with the regulatory climate -- and I would still get everything vetted.
At the end of the day, you're responsible for your own compliance. You can't outsource it.
I wonder if Sandy will get companies more conscious about the importance of DR. Sure, there are disasters every year around the world, but so many big companies are either headquartered in New York or having big presence there.
Kim: But the enforcement is still catching up. This is such a fast-changing area. And each cloud vendor offers different guarantees and features. Some will tell you where your data is located. Some will encrypt everything -- or allow you do encrypt everything.
Mitch: if you're on Amazon, they have availability zones -- make sure your applications are set up to move to another zone if the first one goes down. it costs a little extra, but it can be very much worth it if the application is business-critical
Mitch: You can think of it as a bridge built from both directions at once. On the one hand, companies are cloud-ifying their existing data centers to get the most use out of them, with the intent of -- eventually -- connecting to public clouds for overflow.
On the other hand, companies are using public clouds for testing, new product development, etc... with the intent of moving it in-house eventually for security and tighter control.
You want the two to meet in the middle -- so keep an eye on standards and compability!
Kim, Mitch -- Yes, you can easily get "cloud sprawl." You will need to watch out for that. Make sure you know which employees are authorized to set up stuff in the cloud, and keep track to ensure compatibility, and compliance with long-term planning.
Kim: Yes, with a private cloud, you don't have the benefits of only paying for what you use. However, if you connect it to a public cloud, you don't have to keep growing you local data center. You can use cloud technology to wring every last compute cycle out of it that you can, then use a public cloud for overflow.
Maria, question from Kim: Kim: This idea of being up and running in the cloud in minutes scares me. How about an inventory of the data you're moving, how about knowing where it will be stored, how about compliance and regulation issues?
mschmitz -- if you already have a data center, deploying cloud technologies will maximize the use you get out of it, and also allow you to connect it to public clouds for spikes in usage, backups, or testing.
Kim: Yes. Except that if you rent space in a data center, you can put your own cloud in there, and it's a private cloud. The difference is -- are you paying rent for the servers? Or are you paying for individual computing cycles?
django: normally, I would put "price hikes" into the vendor lock-in worry column, but given the highly competitive nature of clouds, i don't think we need to worry about this in the near future. Instead, vendors seem to be passing along the savings they're getting from dropping storage and server and management costs
@Maria thanks, nice presentation. I'd posted earlier while you were speaking, but seems like private cloud would really minimize most of the benefits of cloud, you are still purchasing equipment, planning for spikes, maintaining and staffing. So what is the net gain on private cloud?
Very Good High Level Overview! I had thought that a Private Cloud was having dedicated servers at a vendor's site which were only used by your organization. I did not realize that it is really having the cloud on-site.
Question: This idea of being up and running in the cloud in minutes scares me. How about an inventory of the data you're moving, how about knowing where it will be stored, how about compliance and regulation issues?
your IT team doesn't need to worry about high availability, disaster recovey, business continuity. Clouds will have redundant data (I think) and should be able to switch over to another set of machines somewhere else, i.e. maybe on a different power grid
Private cloud: if suddenly there is a peak in demand of resources, you won't be able to "scale out & expand instantaneously" unlike in public cloud. As demand increases, cloud will provide more resources
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