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Alan Reiter
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Thursday November 1, 2012 12:31:49 AM
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Hi Mitch Wagner,

Good point about Microsoft and BYOD. If Microsoft can convince IT departments that Windows Phone 8 should be an important part of the enterprise device mix, BYOD will be less of a threat. Perhaps if people try Windows Phone 8, they will like it. (I'll address this more in a reply to your comment about why Windows Phone hasn't been especially successful.)

All this is terrible news for RIM, which doesn't have new devices, new tablets, new apps, new content stores and any desktop or laptop. In short, RIM can't compete with the ecosystems of iOS, Android and Windows.

(Speaking of ecosystems, I expect to be getting the $249 Samsung Chromebook next week.)

Alan Reiter
Thinkernetter
Thursday November 1, 2012 12:26:44 AM
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Hi jwallace,

As I just wrote to abdlah, people are increasingly picking devices based on the ecosystem or ecosystems they use: Apple, Android, Windows and even Amazon (which is why I think it's logical for Amazon to introduce its own phone).

If you own a Windows desktop/laptop, I think you have some incentive to at least try a Windows tablet or a Windows Phone. The problem is Windows Phone just hasn't caught on for many reasons, but perhaps Microsoft's marketing will encourage people to try it. I'm sure people certainly want to try the Surface because of Microsoft's marketing.

DukeW
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I'm sure that Windows Phone 8 is a very nice kind of Kool-Aid, especially if you like that particular flavor.   I prefer Diet Dr. Pepper myself.  I don't have a problem with Kool-Aid, except that it has too much sugar.  Not my cup of tea.  Seriously, if you like Windows 8, and Windows Phone, this is going to pretty much be a slam-dunk.  If, on the other hand, you find the interface fiddly and more than a bit busy, you may want to opt for something quieter.  The trouble is that Microsoft is the 800-pound gorilla in the market, and others will follow where this particular Pied Piper leads.  That may not be in the best interests of the industry, or good taste.

Alan Reiter
Thinkernetter
Thursday November 1, 2012 12:23:38 AM
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Hi abdlah,

More and more, people pick specific ecosystems. The iPhone and iPad certainly have helped Apple capture new iMac and MacBook users. People with Android phones might be more likely to purchase an Android tablet. RIM has a big problem in this ecosystem environment because it only has phones that are outdated and with applications that often are inferior, tablets with very few apps, no desktop or laptop.

Windows still controls the overwhelming majority of desktops, so Microsoft has an advantage if it pushes the ecosystem advantage of owning desktops/laptops, tablets and phones. Microsoft is doing this, especially promoting the entire Windows cloud ecosystem where your documents, photos and videos are in the cloud and accessible on any device.

People are very likely to have a Windows laptop or desktop, but Windows Phone hasn't caught on, for many reasons.

By the way, here's the video for the entire Microsoft Windows Phone 8 event.

Alan Reiter
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Thursday November 1, 2012 12:10:44 AM
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Hi KMT568 (Kathryn),

One problem, however, is Microsoft's mass market advertising touches everyone, and consumers will be very confused by Windows RT tablets that "do" Windows, but do almost entirely Metro apps. And consumers will be frustrated by the dual Metro/legacy app capabilities of Windows 8 on the desktop and Windows 8 Pro on tablets.

Enterprises certainly will (or should) be better informed.

Windows Phone 8, by itself, is a very nice operating system. It's when consumers and enterprises enter the entire Windows ecosystem with multiple types of devices that things get confusing.

Alan Reiter
Thinkernetter
Thursday November 1, 2012 12:06:20 AM
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Hi jwallace, 

I like Windows Phone 8 and think it's an excellent operating system. The problem is Windows 8 on the desktop and Windows RT on tablets.

Although all these devices have "Windows," they are implemented differently and many consumers will be confused. Windows RT, which uses almost entirely Metro apps (except for those bundled by Microsoft) and Windows 8, which offers Metro and legacy apps, will be especially frustrating for many users and also for enterprises.

magneticnorth
IQ Crew
Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:01:08 PM
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Alan,

My guess is Windows Phone 8 will be an easy sell to any enterprise upgrading to Windows Server 2012. They may not replace older phones that are still good, but they could slowly choose Windows Phone 8 for new purchases.

pcharles
IQ Crew
Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:27:04 PM
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In addition to that, I think they are trying to tether users to the MSFT devices, much like they already are with Apple devices.

nathanwosnack
IQ Crew
Wednesday October 31, 2012 9:30:03 PM
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LOL. Microsoft had been developing a tablet computer as early as the late 90s!

jwallace
IQ Crew
Wednesday October 31, 2012 8:00:02 PM
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Mitch,

For some strange reason, regardless of device or machine I use, I ALWAYS seem to encounter bugs and issues that cannot be reproduced by anyone but me.. ;-/

but the text box stayed minimized and at times when using Internet Explorer, the home page doesn't render as beautiful.

and the lost text issue, I think it's time that a fix for that be rolled out by either Windows or 3rd party. including notepad having a restore feature.

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