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Alan Reiter
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Wednesday November 14, 2012 2:46:21 PM
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Hi Kim Davis,

Yes, if Windows 8 results in many people switching to Apple and/or keeping Windows 7 as long as possible, it could harm Microsoft's bottom line. There's definitely a learning curve with Windows 8 -- even with hardware designed for it (touch screen + touchpad) -- and a frustration curve (that might not be overcome) without appropriate hardware.

The iPad mini doesn't generate that level of frustration!

Kim Davis
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Tuesday November 6, 2012 11:35:21 AM
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That would be about the worst conceivable outcome for MSFT, wouldn't it?  Driving businesses to switch Apple?

Alan Reiter
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Monday November 5, 2012 7:03:02 PM
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Hi Joe Stanganelli,

I certainly agree that enterprises still running Windows XP have a greater incentive to upgrade to Windows 8 for the reasons you discussed and also because there are some good features for consumers and enterprises that definitely make it useful to upgrade from XP and, perhaps, somewhat useful to upgrade from Windows 7 to 8.

Also, with all new Windows PCs bundled with Windows 8, people will be getting it whether they want it or not (the ability to downgrade notwithstanding). This could spark people to consider Windows Phone 8 and/or a Windows RT/Windows 8 Pro tablet.

However, the dramatic Metro GUI change in Windows 8 and the advantage of buying new hardware or new accessories optimized for 8, might give many consumers and some enterprises pause. If they have to use a different paradigm, perhaps it might be time to switch to OS X. After all, many employees already bring their iPhones and iPads to work, and many enterprises are testing or rolling out iPads. We'll see how much enterprises want the iPad mini in the next six to 12 months.

Joe Stanganelli
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Sunday November 4, 2012 1:34:41 AM
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I very much agree, Alan.  For MSFT to get a strong foothold in the mobile market, it would seem that the time to strike is now -- and that they've got to strike hard.  Clearly the Win 8 strategy is about that.

That said, the timing in relation to XP's phaseout and organizations' migration plans (or lack thereof in some cases!) is an added bonus.  For those who haven't yet migrated to Win 7, and are now further pushed by the fact that 1) they are now TWO OS's behind and 2) the hourglass sands on XP support are fast running out, the thinking is all the more likely to be, "Hmm... we haven't upgraded yet... so we may as well skip Win 7 and go straight to Win 8, to be as ahead of the curve as we can."  This will only feed into MSFT's strategy all the more -- spurring further adoption of Win 8 mobile devices for those organizations who adopt it.

Alan Reiter
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Friday November 2, 2012 10:06:02 AM
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Hi Joe Stanganelli,

I think Microsoft is looking at a much bigger picture. It's seeing the change in usage from desktops and many laptops to smartphones and tablets. And, it has been rushing to get Windows 8 ready for the holidays, although it missed the school buying season.

Although Microsoft makes money whether people upgrade to Windows 7 or 8, Windows 8 is about the changing use of devices.

Joe Stanganelli
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Friday November 2, 2012 2:09:01 AM
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Yes, the tragedy of Apple fandom.  The Oatmeal summed it up nicely here.

One wonders if part of the rhyme and reason behind the timing of Win 8's release (other than to get a leg up on the mobile market) is to further spur Win 7 adoption by the XP-clingers.

Alan Reiter
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Friday November 2, 2012 1:34:50 AM
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Hi Kim Davis,

Apple's hardware margins typically have remained high, but its pricing on some products has become competitive or relatively so. Two examples: the iPad and MacBook Air. Since their introduction, manufacturers have struggled to develop tablets and notebooks (i.e., Ultrabooks) that offer the design, fit and finish, capabilities -- and prices -- of these two products.

The Verge's editor-in-chief, Joshua Topolsky, called seven-inch tablets "toys" compared to the iPad mini because of the quality of the mini's construction. I think he later relented, somewhat.

Alan Reiter
Thinkernetter
Thursday November 1, 2012 3:47:39 PM
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Hi Joe Stanganelli,

Owning an Apple product says a variety of things about a person, at least based on generalizations. The products do appeal to people who care about -- or who want to be seen as caring about -- design. 

Owning the newest of anything is a statement, especially Apple products, which is why some people are very upset that Apple introduced another new 9.7-inch iPad, thus making theirs (and mine!) old news.

Of course, enterprises often don't care much about new. Indeed, in many instances, such as new operating systems, newness could be a disadvantage (Hello Windows 8 v.1).

Kim Davis
Thinkernetter
Thursday November 1, 2012 3:35:19 PM
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It's interesting to see these business models colliding: Apple needs to maintain its hardware margins, but it's now producing a device much closer to that produced by companies which don't.  Hence, I guess, Amazon's insistence that the Kindle Fire outperforms the iPad mini in some respects.

Joe Stanganelli
Thinkernetter
Thursday November 1, 2012 3:12:00 AM
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Re: "Of course there will be cheap Asian knockoffs of the iPad mini. But with the cost of the Amazon Kindle and the Nexus tablets at $200 or less, there's less incentive for many people to buy junk."

...excepting, of course, that there is a large contingent of people who will buy a polished you-know-what so long as it has the Apple logo on it.  These fanbois/fangrrls would be the primary target market.

Apple is more than a product; it's a fashion statement.

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