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slfisher
Thinkernetter
Sunday August 26, 2012 5:02:11 PM
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He had a lot more control over Apple than I suspect most CEOs have over their companies. How many CEOs wanted to do things but were stymied by executives or by boards?

And yes, Ben & Jerry's had to drop the 7x policy when they hired a full-time CEO who wasn't them. Another interesting thing about the company -- when they first went public, they sold stock only to Vermont residents. (I've actually been to the original Ben & Jerry's, in an old gas station, because I was dating a Vermonter at the time. Unfortunately it's now a parking lot.)

Ron_Miller
Rank: Web master
Wednesday August 8, 2012 9:42:26 AM
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Ariella:

Of course. :)

Ariella
Thinkernetter
Wednesday August 8, 2012 9:34:42 AM
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@Ron so we border on the incestuous here -- in a metaphorical sense, of course. 

Ron_Miller
Rank: Web master
Wednesday August 8, 2012 9:22:39 AM

Ariella:

No suprise since many of the same people go back and forth between government and private sector, and then populate the Boards of Directors. 

Ariella
Thinkernetter
Wednesday August 8, 2012 9:04:50 AM

@Ron Ah the gap that exists between what should be and what is abetted by cronyism in the "old boy network." It's at play in government as well as corporations. 

Ron_Miller
Rank: Web master
Wednesday August 8, 2012 7:12:26 AM

Ariella:

The board is supposed to act as a check against the CEO to make sure he or she is acting in the best interests of the company, but as you say, in reality, it really is an old-boy network (quite literally).

As for shareholder uprisings, strong shareholders do make themselves heard. Just look at the Yahoo situation for an example, but you're right not as often they should or could.

Ariella
Thinkernetter
Tuesday August 7, 2012 8:43:30 PM

@Ron aren't the key board members usually hand-in-glove with the people holding the top positions in the company?  Many companies can obscure much of what goes wrong internally. As for shareholders putting their foot down, I don't know if that ever happens outside of happy ending movies like The Solid Gold Cadilac.

Mary Jander
Thinkernetter
Tuesday August 7, 2012 2:35:54 PM

Looks as though executives aren't just paid to fail, they also escape prosecution in some cases of malfeasance.

Anand Y
IQ Crew
Tuesday August 7, 2012 3:41:02 AM
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Regardless, the job of any CEO at a publicly traded company is to protect and grow the company stock price.

@Ron, I think stock price is not always the best way to measure the performance of the CEO. I have seen many instances(Ex : Satyam computers)  where CEO's artificially inflate the stock prices. So I believe job of the CEO is to grow the value/brand of the company rather than grow the stock price.

Anand Y
IQ Crew
Tuesday August 7, 2012 3:40:59 AM
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I think it's fairly standard practice for the CEO of a company undergoing bankrupcy processes to STILL pay its CEO quite handsomely -- even when the company is bankrupt. That's crazy, but it's how the system works sometimes. 

@mhhfive, true system works like that. I think government needs to create a body which keeps track of the CEO's pay vs Companies growth to protect the interest of investor. This body should flag/take action on those companies which are paying higher salaries to its CEO's inspite of poor company performance.

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