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smkinoshita
Thinkernetter
Thursday January 24, 2013 11:15:20 PM
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@StaceyE:  That's another can of worms, depending on HOW the monitoring is handled.  Sometimes once a company gets on a device, it can be difficult to set limits to where it can go.

StaceyE
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Thursday January 24, 2013 2:21:34 PM
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@smkinoshita.....I think if an employee brings their own device to access the company's network, it would be subject to the same rules/monitoring as it would be if they were using the company's PC. However, if someone is on their smartphone in the breakroom looking at something innapropriate (via their OWN data service) that should be a different story.

nimantha.de
IQ Crew
Tuesday May 29, 2012 10:33:39 AM
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Well IMO predicting the future is not that easy right now. You have to analyze carefully. On you point on taking preventive action is a good thing but unfortunately for that even you cant predict at once.

Ombra
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Wednesday May 23, 2012 7:00:39 PM
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I know one company which hired an SA who failed to indicate he was currently under prosecution and was eventually found guilty of a unlawful access to govt databases.  Even after, the company would not take action to remove the individual.  Individual was given probation by the court and the company viewed the individual as some form of IT security expert.  Access was through use of a subordinate's account.   In short, the company saw it as a benefit / leverage over the employee.

Even investigating an employee has limitations and liabilities which the company needs to consider.  Generally, they are not trained law enforcement in legal investigative techniques and have extremely limited investigative authority.  I believe personal accounts and credentials (whether that is FB, banking, or other social networks) is a personal privacy right.  There are free proxy servers which companies can use to block sites or protocols even in the smallest IT environments.  Asking their credentials, because the company did not prevent unauthorized access, is lame and as it is "personal" a violation of their legitimate expectation to privacy.

cjon316
IQ Crew
Tuesday May 15, 2012 4:31:23 PM
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If you are hiring a bunch of white collar hackers, don't be surprised when they hack you. 

If you hire a bunch of ladies from the red hat society, don't be surprised that they may attend meetings where red hats are worn.

cjon316
IQ Crew
Tuesday May 15, 2012 4:29:40 PM
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When you know  you're being watched by cameras, we all have a tendency to accept this as standard security policy.

What are the ramifications if the employees are doing something illegal with company computers?

 

Kim Davis
Thinkernetter
Tuesday May 15, 2012 2:40:29 PM
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I'm interested by this apparent consensus that password-protected personal data becomes company property if someone logs on using a workplace network.  I'm not sure what the courts have said about that; I'd be interested to hear from attorneys.

Does this include banking information, for example?  Personal email accounts?  Phone directories? What if someone uses their own device, but the company's wireless network? And how does it sit with the notion that employers should not be able to demand passwords - at least in that situation, you know you are handing over the keys.

Mary Jander
Thinkernetter
Tuesday May 15, 2012 1:54:12 PM
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Agreed that trying to predict whether an employee might turn into a crook is a guesstimate. A company may have a perfect record of employee good behavior; then someone could step out of nowhere to ruin it.

That said, if a company has had a record of criminal employees -- or even of employees who violate the rules repeatedly -- then something is wrong with the hiring process, and it may be possible to estimate the likelihood of insider malfeasance occurring again.

kq4ym
IQ Crew
Tuesday May 15, 2012 1:42:42 PM
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Determining blame during any such investigation will result if time consuming defense actions and expensive fees to lawyers, security analysts, experts and more.

The problem may be just how much "preventive" action should take place before any breach happens? What's the cost benefit ratio and what is the probable odds of such events happening to your company. It's all a crap shoot basically. Predicting the future and guessing how much should be spent on prevention is just a wild guesstimate.

mtechie
IQ Crew
Tuesday May 15, 2012 8:48:02 AM
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Oh, and don't put anything on the net you wouldn't want to see on the front page of the New York Times, and certainly not during business hours.  Big Brother may be busy, but you can bet Little Brother's looking over your shoulder.


Exactly! Monitoring software is very sophisticated these days and can extend to your social media profiles as well. Recording is often covert and can be triggered by certain actions or set to record everything.
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