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Rank: Cave Painter

Thanks everybody for tuning in! See you on the message boards.

IQ Crew

Glad to hear it jwallace!

IQ Crew

This one goes on my all time fav list. Thanks Dan, IE!! Nicole/Mary/Kim

IQ Crew

Dan, many thanks for your time today!

Thinkernetter

OK Dan! Thanks for spending so much time! Great talking to you!

IQ Crew

I'm baffled too, especially since bloggers and analysts offered up plenty of ideas in the past few years about how Twitter could make money. But Twitter instead spent its time saying it was going to wait to figure out a new, innovative way to make money and then... shock and awe, settled on advertising.

IQ Crew

hey I have to go, my editor is on the phone. okay? talk to you soon. 

Rank: Cave Painter

it makes my day when a singer I'm infatuated with tweets back. Her entertainment atty sister too.

IQ Crew

As for Twiter as a business, I'm baffled that it's been so long and they still can't come up with a way to make serious money. But they have enough VC money to keep running for a long time. Maybe they will figure something out.

Rank: Cave Painter

today's rate of information exchange has to have an effect(sp?) on my brain chemistry. I reall the pre-fb days on Internet Evolution and post FB days.. 

IQ Crew

Twitter? I use it mostly just to "amplify" my blog posts, meaning every time I blog something it automatically gets fed out to Twitter. But I don't spend a lot of time reading my twitter stream and seeing what's going on. And I rarely just write a Tweet on its own. Not sure why. 

Rank: Cave Painter

Hey there smkinoshita.

IQ Crew

@Nicole, Dan:  I tend to shut down on the weekends and come back to a backlog.  But I try to make it my business to know what's going on, so maybe that's why...

Thinkernetter

@Mary I don't want to see the "it's all my fault for the axe" email. in doing so, I've also missed the IE emails HOWEVER I see all of your posts on FB like page

IQ Crew

Me, I've long known that Facebook means nothing to me. I could easily live without it.

Thinkernetter

By the way, speaking of obsessive updates... how do you feel about Twitter as a service and as a company?

IQ Crew

@Dan: Wasn't there a single message that seemed important?

Thinkernetter

@Mary, it's not that well organized.  Had to switch her off completely for a while, now letting her back on for specified purposes.  She complained that she was losing blog followers.  11.

Thinkernetter

Haha, no I think it says a lot about how unimportant today's constant stream of "information" and "updates" is.

IQ Crew

And I thought to myself, why do I spend my days obsessively checking all these blogs and email accounts and Facebook? Why? 

Rank: Cave Painter

@Kim: How much time do you allow?

Thinkernetter

Nicole, exactly! We went to Utah for a ski trip a few weeks ago. I brought no laptop, and didn't check email on my phone. (Well, once I looked). Anyway, at the end of the 5 days, I'd missed nothing. Which I guess says a lot about how unimportant I am. But still. Nothing! 

Rank: Cave Painter

@Jwallace: Do you mean that you abandoned email because you failed to get some important emails?

Thinkernetter

Already having to limit my 11 year old daughter's time online.

Thinkernetter

I like to actively disconnect and then come back a couple of days later and see how unimportant everything was that I would have otherwise been obsessively checking.

IQ Crew

We have twins, age 6. It scares me to see how much they love to play games on smartphones and iPad. I thnk they got it from their parents, which makes me sad.

Rank: Cave Painter

@Dan: That's really funny!

Thinkernetter

@Mary my email abandonment started when I dropped the ball one too many times with my boss at CBS and dipped my head in the sand like an ostrich. we're friends on fb but she doesn't "talk shop" on fb so..  

IQ Crew

I wrote recently on my blog that I have this terrible fear that my kids are going to grow up and remember me as a guy who lived in their house when they were growing up and was always staring at a phone.

Rank: Cave Painter

Kim, I'm going to write that down. Thanks. Protopage. 

Rank: Cave Painter

I do the same, Dan. Last weekend I disconnected for 48 hours. It was great.

IQ Crew

SkyDrive is one thing I haven't experimented with yet. I keep thinking I'm going ot have days and days to just play around but every day the people at newsweek send me work to do. Gah.

Rank: Cave Painter

Dan, I like the idea of one-stop cloud shopping.  I've compromised for the time being by using Protopage.com, a customizable desktop/RSS reader which at least allows me to keep all my links to various cloud locations in one place, well organized.

Thinkernetter

Lately I've been actively trying to unplug as much as possible. It feels so good.

Rank: Cave Painter

Dan, sounds simple enough to me. Not to the tech leaders who want to decide which devices can access which content and data.

IQ Crew

@DanLyons how do you like the skydrive?

IQ Crew

jwallace = Unabomber in training

Rank: Cave Painter

Here's what I do with email. Anyone who knows me, I give out my gmail address. Both personal and professional. Then I have a NewsweekDailyBeast email address but the only people who write to it are people who I don't know and who are just sending in random story pitches. 95% of what hits that inbox is stuff I can delete without even opening. 

Rank: Cave Painter

I've finally started to unsubscribe from mailings I once thought I wanted (or could tolerate). 

Thinkernetter

@Nicole folks can catch me via facebook or twitter.. for now.

IQ Crew

the few times I've logged into my main email acct(hotmail) to look for files, I've covered the screen with my hands to not see the highlighted emails from "important contacts". 

IQ Crew

I'm not ready for an email-less world. I don't see a better alternative just yet. I'd be happy with less email though.

IQ Crew

Here's what I want: all my stuff in one place in the cloud, and I can get it from any device. Phone, tablet, laptop, desktop, TV. Why is that so difficult? Right now I have photos all over the place, home movies all over the place, plus Dropbox, Google Docs, Carbonite, Mozy, iCloud. I used to have .Mac and then had MobileMe. Good grief! 

Rank: Cave Painter

@Dan: Given the rise of the Web and blogs and all, are IT vendors getting any more truthful than they used to be?

Thinkernetter

yes, @Jwallace: I am dumbfounded.

Thinkernetter

jwallace how do you avoid it

 

Rank: Cave Painter

Aren't we moving to dumb Thin Clients tapping all clouds all the time?

Thinkernetter

email = stressbox I've avoided for months.

IQ Crew

I'd like to write a blog by dictating it to Siri.  Not sure the copy desk would like the idea.

Thinkernetter

@Dan: I'm thinking the year of No Desktop will appear before we see only Linux.,

Thinkernetter

My Boston accent probably presents a challenge.

Rank: Cave Painter

Dan, I'm going to go with probably not happening.

IQ Crew

email.. what's that?

IQ Crew

True, jwallace. My Floridian friend has had no issues with Siri.

IQ Crew

Just bookmarked, will watch later.

Rank: Cave Painter

One thing about Siri: It may have dictation capabilities. That may redeem it in my book. But I have not had time to fiddle with that.

Thinkernetter

Siri seems to be comfy with a southern accent then @Nicole.. and just wait til she becomes a hologram of your choice. 

IQ Crew

I'm also waiting for the Year of the Linux Desktop to happen. Anyone have any idea when that's going to happen? Back in 2005 people were saying Windows would be dead and gone by now.

Rank: Cave Painter

I just saw a second class action lawsuit brought against Siri.  Seems like a hammer to crack a nut.

Thinkernetter

Sure! That would be great, because I was wondering if it was just my NY accent and Kim's English accent throwing it off.

IQ Crew

my non early adapter friends LOVE SIRI!! and they sold me on it. "send jwallace a message, I'm running late"

IQ Crew

Funny thing, voice commands on Android are really good. And voice commands on Kinect with Xbox are good too. You need to give actual commands with Kinect, can't just talk naturally, but still, it works.

Rank: Cave Painter

Nicole you did that? Can you send me a link? I wanted to do the same experiment. Just try to replicate the ads and see what happens.

Rank: Cave Painter

Mary, me too. I got an iPhone 4S from work and Siri worked like @##$%&*+!

Rank: Cave Painter

Yes, I agree, Dan -- we recently did a vblog demonstrating how Siri doesn't at all live up to what she claims to be in the commercials.

IQ Crew

Although I think Robert Scoble is already in line outside the store in Mountain View to be first to get one.

Rank: Cave Painter

I have had laughable results w/ Siri.

Thinkernetter

What I'm wondering is what happened or is happening with the Apple TV? They got a lot of noise and leaks a few months ago and then things went quiet. 

Rank: Cave Painter

I saw a headline recently about how nobody is actually using Siri. I think Siri works really well on a 30 second TV spot. In real life? Not so much. Nicole, Apple wtihout Steve is fine in the short term, not so great in the long term.

Rank: Cave Painter

a w e s o m e @DanLyons

IQ Crew

jwallace, yes there are fewer apps in Windows Phone environment but honestly I'm not a heavy app user so I'm not the best judge here. If I can do FB, Twitter, a few other things, I'm fine. Heavy app explorers might hit a wall. Funny thing when I met with the Xbox team is they say they are NOT trying to get a zillion apps on Xbox. They just want a few apps, very well selected, to provide a curated experience. I think that might be a good idea. Who wants to turn on the TV and have 500,000 apps to sift through?

Rank: Cave Painter

Dan what do you think the future of Apple looks like without Steve at the helm?

IQ Crew

Siri is my soon to be fiance. This I know. 

IQ Crew

Yes the Gmail ads are rather creepy. I haven't liked anything about Google's personalized/social search.

IQ Crew

I can't deal with Bing.  It just doesn't seem to produce the search results I'd anticipate with Google.  On the other hand, Google Search's new attempts to answer my questions rather than give me search results are pathetic.  And annoying.

Thinkernetter

Windows phone's UI*

IQ Crew

I was kind of put off when Google went to that "Search Plus Your World" thing and all those crazy results about my friends started showing up at top of results.

Rank: Cave Painter

I do love the Windows phone's IE. so much improvement. My question tho @DanLyons is have you noticed a current disadvantage in the Windows "app market"? and if so, how soon before it self corrects?

IQ Crew

Yes and I really like Bing. I also am using hotmail. it's nice not to have ads on the sidebar that seem to "know" what's in my email.

Rank: Cave Painter

Dan are you using Bing too, instead of Google?

IQ Crew

Nicole, re: month of microsoft, i was surprised by how easy it was to switch. i missed my android phone for maybe a few days and then forgot all about it. Loving the 2 Windows phones I have. And using Windows 7 on a new machine is a great experience. I'd only used it on a very old underpowered machine. Also, I find Windows 8 really cool and interesting. I was surprised by how much I liked it

Rank: Cave Painter

umm, not to break the IE Commandments but here's the link re: flexible displays (LG) http://mashable.com/2012/03/29/lg-e-paper/

IQ Crew

This should be a glorious period for journalism, with this huge appetite for content.  Ironically, it has resulted in journalists being encouraged to create content for free.

Thinkernetter

jwallace i hope you are right about flexible displays. I want one of those!

 

Rank: Cave Painter

YT = Yours Truly, a character in "Snow Crash"

IQ Crew

Great points about Google. I agree completely. Speaking of Microsoft, what has surprised you throughout your "Month of Microsoft"?

IQ Crew

Which means maybe now there are opportunities around curation? I don't know.

 

Rank: Cave Painter

what role will facebook timeline search and "storytelling"(new search) have. will it be opened to 3rd party apps or even bohemoths like Google and Bing?

IQ Crew

I think there's way too much content out there. YouTube has these staggering stats about how much video is uploaded every minute, hour, day, etc. -- one guy there at YouTube told me recently that even if you just look at the "professional" content being put on YT, there's so much that even the YouTube people can't keep up with the content that's being created. 

Rank: Cave Painter

I think Google is at risk of turning into Microsoft. They have a great core business. But search was a business built for the Web as it looked in 1996. In a world of apps and walled gardens (Facebook) Google's search business becomes less and less powerful. They're casting about for a new business but I don't think they've got it yet. I love my Android phone but Android is really just another way to protect search, to keep people using Google search when they move to mobile.

Rank: Cave Painter

I read that flexible dispalys are about to hit the market. In 5 to 7 years I predict that sponsored fb and twitter feeds will be on coke cans. okay, in 10 years. 

IQ Crew

Dan, here's a question I had earlier.  Re the ongoing river of content, isn't there just too much content out there now?  Are we reaching saturation point?

Thinkernetter

Hangouts is about the only interesting thing about Google+ from my view, and we'll probably be doing them as well (we as in Internet Evolution).

IQ Crew

Dan, thanks for a great interview. If you had to advise a young tech journalist just starting out, what would you say?

Thinkernetter

We might be doing G+ hangouts via Newsweek too. But I think they have limited appeal. 

 

Rank: Cave Painter

What's your take on Google's focus these days, Dan? Is the focus on social and consumer electronics likely to work?

IQ Crew

Anyone didn't lose interest in Google+?  I have a photographer friend that likes it, that's about all.

Thinkernetter

I just read down through the comments and saw one about SCO and Groklaw. Please dear God no Linux kooks okay?

Please?

 

Rank: Cave Painter

google hangout has caught on with my non early adapter friends tho.

IQ Crew

I used it kind of regularly for a while but then got bored. 

 

Rank: Cave Painter

Hey-- this is Dan. I've lost interest in Google+ .....

 

Rank: Cave Painter

Oh god, jwallace, no idea.

IQ Crew

what is the purpose of a live-tweeted open heart surgery?

IQ Crew

I wanted to ask Dan what he thinks of Google+ as well.

IQ Crew

I am the Fake Dan.

Thinkernetter

Thanks Dan for a great interview!

Thinkernetter

Dan, once you've arrived, just announce yourself!

IQ Crew

Great conversation.

Thinkernetter

Thanks dwains. Dan should be joining us here momentarily.

IQ Crew

Glad you could join us, Bernie!

IQ Crew

Nice Talk.  Thanks.

Rank: Cave Painter

here we go again.. "limitless"

IQ Crew

Thank you!  My first time and I enjoyed it!

Rank: Cave Painter

Always bumping up against the time!

IQ Crew

So, Facebook can command a valuation which defies logic and rationality.

Thinkernetter

if that's a word.

IQ Crew

I wish I could get some money from a VC which they don't expect to get back.

Thinkernetter

He's right about ads on blogs.

Thinkernetter

I can't wait to revisit this in the archives.

IQ Crew

@jw, I probably need to clear out a lot of Twitter follows and bookmarks and RSS feeds.  Should do it regularly.

Thinkernetter

I like this theory about Arrington.

Thinkernetter

@Kim I find it increasingly simpler to find good content. 

IQ Crew

@smkinoshita noise to signal ratio? that's why I only "follow" 3 twitter accounts.. and a handful of blogs.

IQ Crew

@Kim Davis:  And to elaborate, I think there's always a blog that will speak someone's language perfectly.  So while the content may be similar, it's the language that defines the audience.

Thinkernetter

And it's increasingly hard to find the good content.

Thinkernetter

@Kim -- there's so much content, so little good content. ;)

Thinkernetter

off the record* ;p

IQ Crew

^^ that is a question. his opinion on the wikipedia entry. agree or disagree from the "horses mouth".

IQ Crew

Re the ongoing river of content, isn't there just too much content out there now?  Are we reaching saturation point?

Thinkernetter

 where he claimed that blogs "are the prized platform of an online lynch mob spouting liberty but spewing lies, libel and invective", claiming that Groklaw was primarily created "to bash software maker SCO Group in its Linux patent lawsuit against IBM, producing laughably biased, pro-IBM coverage".

IQ Crew

Tech can't be covered in a weekly column now? 

 

Thinkernetter

Is the situation for bloggers re traffic different in kind from the situation for journalists on daily newspapers - especially tabloids?

Thinkernetter

I don't know how I get myself into these 'no audio' situations.. 

IQ Crew

how is blog talk radio's support for the hearing impaired?

IQ Crew

The traffic angst.  Funny.

Thinkernetter

Hi Chrisliu00!

Thinkernetter

Despite the circumstances.

Thinkernetter

The farewell post on the Fake Steve Jobs blog is really funny.

Thinkernetter

Sounds like that was a fun project.

Thinkernetter

Ha! He refutes the claim that the NYT wasn't so skilled that they could ID Lyons from his writing patterns.

Thinkernetter

Hi Awilliams!

Thinkernetter

ah ha, I had to refresh to see anythning

Thinkernetter

His final tribute to Steve Jobs on his blog was simply awesome.

Thinkernetter

Can't wait to hear Dan.

Thinkernetter

Hello all. Going live soon. Please feel free to share your questions for Dan Lyons here.

IQ Crew

Hello all. Going live soon. Please feel free to share your questions for Dan Lyons here.

IQ Crew


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