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Nate Loses Superbowl Prediction

1/22/2013 17 comments
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What impact, if any, will Nate Silver's failure to correctly predict the Superbowl contenders have on your faith in analytics?
  None
  A little - but he did determine the presidential winner
  Quite a bit, because it shows the technology's fallible
  A lot. He got both teams wrong; if I did that in my job, I might be looking for a new position
  Superbowl... What's that?
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ChrisTOP
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Friday February 8, 2013 1:03:11 PM
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None.


I was going to offer a rationale, but I believe hounhosp said it much better than I would have.

mtechie
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Wednesday January 30, 2013 9:56:39 PM
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@Nathan I don't follow sports and haven't heard of Silver until I read about it here. I still haven't bothered to look him up online to read more.
hounhosp
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Wednesday January 30, 2013 11:33:27 AM
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@nathanwosnack

A predictive model has an error margin that should be taken into account when predicting the outcome of a given event based on that model. Even a state-of-the art analytics package cannot predict with 100 percent accurary the outcome of an test instance whose parameters (features) may vary depending on the test environment.

hounhosp
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Wednesday January 30, 2013 11:21:22 AM
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@mtechie,

At least, I can believe you because you are telling the truth, unfortunatly we can't say that about every forecaters or so-called analysts.

nathanwosnack
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Tuesday January 29, 2013 3:49:41 PM
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@Paul, I for one have never heard of Nate Silver until this poll. How about you and others?

mtechie
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Tuesday January 29, 2013 2:37:06 PM
@Paul I can say I haven't heard of the guy until I saw his name here at IE!
slfisher
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Monday January 28, 2013 11:15:24 PM
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To me there's a big difference between the Super Bowl and the playoffs, and the Presidential election: the first is determined by the participants, and the second by the audience, which is polled. It's not like the views of the audience have any determination on the final result; it's totally about the performance of the two teams involved. 

So there's a lot of factors involved -- weather, injuries, who's playing, etc. For that reason, while it's mildly interesting to me that Nate failed to correctly calculate the victors of the playoffs, doing so correctly doesn't impress me nearly as much as his performance during the election season.

My gambler boyfriend observes that if Nate could indeed correctly calculate the winners of the games, he'd end up making a lot more money placing bets on them than he could make at the New York Times, which caused me to wonder (intellectually) what effect deliberately throwing the predictions could have on the odds of the games -- though it is of course illegal to bet on football games outside of Las Vegas and no doubt his New York Times contract forbids it anyway.

Paul Whyte
Researcher
Monday January 28, 2013 9:04:36 PM
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Ok so let's assume for the sake of argument that you don't know what is the Super Bowl. Can you also say you have not heard about Nate Silver? 

Paul Whyte
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Monday January 28, 2013 8:44:38 PM
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"He wants to shout at them to check if all the predictions they have made in the past came to be. "

So is it only on this basis that Mr. Taleb will believe in predictions? Well that scenario is the lofty ambition of analytics. That's were we are heading wioth this exciting but intriguing world of Analytics. Are we ever going to reach that lofty goal of been able to see all our predictions come true? I am afraid notbecause Analytics does not purport to be an exact science. However, it does gives us plenty of resources to make predictions look like a scientific process. It can only gets better with time.

Paul Whyte
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Monday January 28, 2013 8:34:15 PM
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"We should neither predict nor believe in predictions."

How can you say we should neither predict nor believe in predictions? Prediction itself is as old as the human race. On an individual level, everyoneone at some point in time wantred to know the future. It's just a part of human nature. We've seen astrology becoming in creasingly popular as more and more people become super curious to know the future. 

From a business perspective, we are hearing a lot about forcast. I don't think there is a single business that does not do with forcasts. Over the years, forcasting has been predominatly a guessing game. However, with the advent of analytics, we are now seeing attempts to minimize the guessing aspect of forcasting. With analytics, we can now apply scientific principles to determine with some degree of certaintythe future outcomes of business decisions.

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