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Google's Security 'Fix' Complicates Life for Users

Written by Robert McGarvey
8/20/2012 16 comments
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Mat Honan made me do it, but now I don't know whether to curse him, the hacker who ruined Honan's digital life, or Google, which is making me rue the moment I clicked to enable two-factor authentication to better safeguard my accounts.

You will recall that Wired writer Honan was plunged into a digital hell when control of some of his accounts -- Amazon, iCloud, and more -- were seized by a clever hacker (who, incidentally, did most of his mischief with old-fashioned social engineering, meaning he charmed his way into retrieving passwords that Apple and Amazon handed out).

Understand: Everything I do revolves around Google -- I use Gmail and Google Voice, I have an Android phone, I even use a ChromeBook for much of my computing. And that is why, when I heard about Honan's misfortune, I liked the idea of beefing up the security wall around my Google accounts.

The core idea of Google's two-factor authentication borrows from banking sites by requiring the user to input something he knows (username and password) and something he has (in Google's case, a phone number that can receive either an SMS or a voice call with a numeric code). The result is a sharp jump in security.

To sign in, you type username, password, and that onetime numeric code, and theoretically, that will keep hackers distant.

Except it does not work that easily -- trust me. Hours into this I still don't have my calendar syncing on a Kindle Fire, for instance, and that may be just one of many apps that worked fine yesterday but this morning are mired in thick cyber frustration.

The apparent problem: iOS apps do not support the two-factor authentication invoked by Google, and neither, apparently, do at least some apps on the Android-powered HTC One S (running Ice Cream Sandwich) and a Kindle Fire (running an Amazon-tweaked version of Android).

Google knows this is frustrating. It's even put up a video about it on YouTube.

Google's workaround is "application specific passwords" -- onetime codes that Google advises users not to bother memorizing or writing down -- even though for email on an iPad to sync up it needs that unique password entered (and remembered by the device). Frankly, it's maddening. So far I have set up six of these, and it's not getting easier.

Getting the code is a multi-step process and the first step is clicking on an app that used to work and now does not. Step two: Find the password that's associated with the app. Fairly straightforward with iOS, not always so on Android, where sometimes passwords appear to be hidden.

Google, helpfully, offers a list of apps it knows requires application specific passwords:

●      POP and IMAP email clients such as Outlook, Mail and Thunderbird

●      Gmail and Google Calendar on smartphones

●      ActiveSync for Windows Mobile and iPhone

●      YouTube Mobile on Apple Devices

●      Cloud Print

●      Installed chat clients such as Google Talk and Adium

●      3D Warehouse, Sketchup, and installed applications

●      AdWords Editor

●      Sync for Google Chrome

●     Gmail Notifier

As you work through this list, know it may not be complete. There is a provocative blog by software engineer Stephen Rees-Carter, who argues that not only are the application-specific passwords a pain, they actually resulted in lowering his security. That is because Rees-Carter, left to his own devices, loves complicated passwords. He explained: “My Google password is 16 characters long with lower case letters, upper case letters, a couple of numbers, and a couple of random characters.”

The machine-generated application specific passwords, by contrast, are 16 characters long, mixing only numbers and lowercase letters. No uppercase, no special symbols.

Wrote Rees-Carter, who like me has found it necessary to create six such specific passwords: “if you compare this with my original password, this is a lot simpler to crack or guess. Also note, there are now 7 possible passwords that get into my account. By anyones [sic] logic, I have just reduced my security significantly.”

In my case -- where my core Google password is shorter than 16 characters -- maybe mathematically my security has strengthened.

But I am still fiddling with my Fire apps. I know I will find more that don't work on my HTC phone. And now I have Rees-Carter complaining that Google's beefed-up security is a shell game that has left him more exposed.

Damn that Mat Honan!

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Kim Davis
Thinkernetter
Friday August 24, 2012 11:04:35 AM
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David, that's a much better explanation of what I was trying to say -- thanks.

davidmanheim
IQ Crew
Thursday August 23, 2012 9:53:08 PM
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Kim and mhhfive:

Just to clarify, these types of brute force attacks typically take place against a exfiltrated password list, not against the ultimate target. If someone steals the unsalted password database for myfavoriteonlinesite.com, and I have an account there, a brute force attack will be easy to run on the stolen database, and if my password is the same on other sites, it will be effective at finding that password.

Similarly, and more relevant in this case, if the attack successfully uses a side channel attack, (a technical attack on the cryptosystem,) or social engineering to trick the owner or company into reveling the password, the password will be revealed. This isn't a brute force attack, but does reveal the password. Each of these methods is used routinely in some context or another - and the exploit that discussed in the article was a clever combination of several techniques.

In any case, multi-factor authentication adds a new, presumably unconnected layer of security - and thereby multiplies the difficulty of cracking the password. Of course, rubber-hose cryptanalysis will always be a threat.

Kim Davis
Thinkernetter
Thursday August 23, 2012 11:46:59 AM
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That's effective for online attacks, mhhfive.  Successful  brute force attacks take place offline, which requires, of course, access to the encrypted material.

Robert McGarvey
Thinkernetter
Thursday August 23, 2012 11:23:23 AM
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I am on the road...keeping finding more apps that need a special password, will wind up with more than 12, I believe.  I have a Playbook, 2 iPads, and a Kindle Fire (maybe not a typical user)...but, man, this is aggravating.  Do hope it is worth the aggro

mhhfive
IQ Crew
Wednesday August 22, 2012 5:30:07 PM
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Two-factor authentication is a HUGE pain.. the thing that I don't quite understand is: how do hackers brute-force attack password systems? Shouldn't it be somewhat obvious when another computer is "guessing" a lot of wrong passwords that maybe the host system should stop accepting password guesses?  

Maybe two factor authentication should only kick in AFTER someone has tried to unsuccessfully login three times in a row?

Mitch Wagner
Thinkernetter
Wednesday August 22, 2012 1:34:59 PM
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Kim Davis - What do I have on Google that's valuable, anyway?


I've said that myself many times, just before canceling a service, and then find out that there was something valuable there after all. 

chuckgregory
IQ Crew
Wednesday August 22, 2012 11:23:05 AM
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It's ease of use over security for me, hands down. I just don't have that much out there...lots of stuff on line but for most of it I have several local copies too. As far as somebody trying to use my credit or other financial stuff...good luck with that! I'm lucky if I have $50 in all my bank accounts put together. (Note, this is a big improvement, over the last 10 years or so I was lucky to have 50 cents in all my bank accounts put together...)

I sometimes try the two factor stuff when I'm dealing with client stuff--their data isn't mine so I have to protect it better. ;)

rdv
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Wednesday August 22, 2012 1:26:16 AM
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The 2-step authentication is good for banking systems which we logon once in a while and can take the pain 2-step authentication.  If the same thing is to be followed every hour or two then it will be really painful...

"And now I have Rees-Carter complaining that Google's beefed-up security is a shell game that has left him more exposed...".

Looks like making the passwords strong is the better method. And, further if we have more apps handling our accounts then making the application-specific password strong is good enough (though we still need google to fix 2-step authentication on those apps)

Google is serious about the security and in october Google plans to have a $2 million competition for hackers to hack their Chrome browser Chrome blog...

Kim Davis
Thinkernetter
Tuesday August 21, 2012 3:32:13 PM
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That story gave me a headache, Robert, and it's certainly not your fault.

Argh, I have a history with these two-step systems, going back to the early days of SecurID tokens, which never seemed to work, and always necessitated calls to a call center in Atlanta (I was in London at the time).

More recently, Craigslist has been using a similar process to Google's, although of course there's no question of needing to sync a bunch of accounts.  In short, Craigslist often (but not always) asks you to verify your account when you sign in by inputting a numeric code received on your phone.

Oh, it's all great, unless you don't have the right phone with you, or you switch phones, because you do realize there's only one number associated with that account... or to put it i n a nutshell, aargh!

What do I have on Google that's valuable, anyway?

 

 

Michael P. Kassner
Thinkernetter
Tuesday August 21, 2012 1:01:38 PM
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I like all of you have tried several times now since Google started Two-Factor and it gets a bit better each revision. But Chrome syncing between my Android phone and Chrome browser does not work.

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