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E-tailers Collude in Online 'Rewards' Trap

Written by Chris Poley
8/26/2009 17 comments
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When does a business model cross the line into scam? UPDATED 8/27/09 1:40 PM

That’s the question many consumers have asked themselves when it comes to sites that use a revenue-generating systems to connect sellers to motivated buyers through questionable coupon and rewards programs.

Webloyalty.com, an online marketing and sales company, recently settled a consumer class action lawsuit filed in 2006. The settlement was made with no admission of wrongdoing on Webloyalty's part.

Nonetheless, it appears that many consumers who dealt with Webloyalty from September 11, 2000, through September 30, 2008, could be eligible for refunds on money paid for a range of the firm’s online offers. A New York Times article quotes David J. George, a lead attorney for the plaintiffs, as saying that around 20 million consumers are entitled to full restitution.

A handful of other firms appeared in documents for the membership program class action, including Fandango, Priceline, and Valueclick Inc. All were accused of enrolling “consumers in [a range of membership programs] in the course of online retail transactions without obtaining sufficient authorization or consent, and thereafter wrongly charged fees for membership benefits.”

Complaints about these programs center on whether consumers really know what they are getting into when they sign on for a rewards program -- whether they really scrutinize the fine print.

Webloyalty says they do. According to Beth Kitchener, a spokeswoman for the company, here’s what the signup process is like:

    After completing a transaction with one of our e-commerce partners, consumers are shown a banner advertisement which states language similar to the following: ‘Your purchase is complete. By clicking above you can claim your incentive from our preferred partner when you join their service. Terms and conditions apply.’ If the consumer clicks on the banner, he or she is then shown a full page solicitation offering a 30-day free trial membership in one of our services and a $10 Cash Back Incentive for trying our service. If the consumer accepts this offer, he or she then enters an email address twice, and today, enters the last 4 digits of his or her credit card number and then clicks the ‘YES!’ button on the page... Immediately to the left of the ‘YES!’ button are the ‘Offer and Billing Details’ which explain that consumers will be billed on the credit card they use for their client transaction.

Firms that pursue these dubious marketing practices continue to flourish almost unabated, despite complaints. It is these program participants, including companies like Buy.com and Orbitz, that continually bring in the fresh meat. The rewards program companies pay them for their customer access.

In a CNET interview, Buy.com’s VP of marketing, Jeff Wisot, stated, “We have a longstanding relationship with Webloyalty because we think they provide value to our customers.”

Buy.Com has no remorse about its terms and conditions contract. According to Wisot, “It’s very clear that [customer] credit card information is going to be transferred over to Webloyalty.”

Kitchener states: “With more than 2 million current memberships, Webloyalty.com believes it provides excellent customer service. We make every effort to be straightforward with our offers, allowing consumers to make educated choices regarding the products and services they purchase.”

Despite assertions that nothing’s amiss, the U.S. Senate Commerce Committee is investigating the entire “cash back” and online coupon industry.

Besides Webloyalty, Vertrue and Affinion Group are under investigation for questionable practices.

Yes, it is obvious to state the obligatory "buyer beware." But the popularity of these online programs will continue to attract consumers; and unless law enforcement succeeds in stifling these activities or retailers get wise, they will continue to grow exponentially.

— Chris Poley has been a professional trader for more than 20 years.

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aum007
Rank: Cyborg
Saturday August 29, 2009 12:04:31 PM
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"

you should be honest and forthright

if you cannot meet this test then you need to reflect on what you are doing.

Mike I love your thought process of doing business the Good Old Fashioned way ,where everybody knew everybody else.Unfortunately,too many very powerful people have too much to lose by going back to the Old school way of doing things.Needless

to say I dont think it will ever happen.The best we can hope for is that Retailers hold themselves upto a level of Transparency in a competitive marketplace;beyond that its free game for everybody concerned.

Regards

ashish.

 

torriatte
IQ Crew
Friday August 28, 2009 9:51:23 AM
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:-) proper spelling is always good; espacially when it involves someone you want to be aware of.

 

And at least you can come clean and admit a mistake. :-)

torriatte
IQ Crew
Friday August 28, 2009 9:50:06 AM
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Oh and not to mention that arrogant answer about "people know we are doing this" because it's in the usage agreement...

torriatte
IQ Crew
Friday August 28, 2009 9:48:54 AM
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I TOTALLY agree. This stuff does not happen by accident and I would serioiusly reconsider doing business folks that pull this stuff.

Chuck

Mike Acker
Rank: Cyborg
Friday August 28, 2009 6:58:54 AM
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=: "When does a "business model" cross the line into scam? "

you should be honest and forthright

if you cannot meet this test then you need to reflect on what you are doing.

Terry Sweeney
IQ Crew
Thursday August 27, 2009 2:24:51 PM
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The inaccuracies were factual -- the date that the class-action lawsuit was filed, the nature of the out-of-court settlement, and the methods by which Webloyalty derives customer email addresses. We also thought it might further the cause of credibility by spelling Webloyalty's name correctly.

Paul Whyte
Researcher
Thursday August 27, 2009 2:04:25 PM
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What kind of inaccuracies were in the original post? Were they obvious contradictions by the author of some missing/misplaced numbers? I did not read the original post and so was unable to identify the update you make!!!

Mary Jander
Thinkernetter
Thursday August 27, 2009 1:52:21 PM
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We have updated this blog to reflect additional information provided by Webloyalty and to correct some inaccuracies in the original post.

cbrown
IQ Crew
Thursday August 27, 2009 11:17:39 AM
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Thanks for this article Chris. To be honest, this is the first I've heard of this scam and I'm surprised to see that otherwise reputable e-tailers are tied to it. How disingenuous of them to publish their own privacy policies, but at the end of the transaction basically hand their customers over to a 3rd party to do God knows what with their personal information!

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for regulators to deal with this, so in the meantime what can consumers do to shame these e-tailers into dropping their relationships with these scammers? We need a site like consumerist.com or the Electronic Frontier Foundation to take on these guys.

Chris Poley
Thinkernetter
Wednesday August 26, 2009 6:22:43 PM
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You would think, right Kenton, the role of any forthright retailer, wholesaler, e-tailer, should be to protect their customers privacy, not make money off them, especially when they pretend to provide rewards and are trying to slip some crappy subscription by their dozing eyes.

Why there isn't more watch dogging in protecting these types of scams is beyond me. 

 

 

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