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Google's Password Replacement Proposal Falls Short

Written by Kim Davis
1/23/2013 51 comments
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The password system is broken. That seems to be one thing we all agree on. But we're stuck with passwords (or at best, passwords plus security tokens) until someone comes up with something better. Now Google has joined the quest for alternative validation solutions.

The problems with passwords are two-fold, at least. Passwords strong enough to resist high-speed brute force or dictionary attacks are far too complex for our everyday needs. Social engineering (maliciously requesting password re-sets) is getting easier as we place more information about ourselves online.

What could substitute for passwords? Biometrics, perhaps, although that looks like a costly, and potentially intrusive, solution. As we've seen, DARPA has been focused on behavioral profiling to authenticate identities. Google seems to be researching two possible measures:

  • Modifying Google's web browser to work with Yubico keys.
  • A smartcard embedded finger ring (one tap, and you're in).

My first reaction is that these approaches fall disappointingly short of the kind of cutting-edge research in which DARPA is engaged. After all, what else is a key or a finger ring but a security token? It's not clear what advantages these devices would have over traditional RSA SecurID, except ease of use. And ease of use can be a security disadvantage.

RSA, of course, promotes a "two factor" authentication system, relying on a password or pin number as well as a SecurID token. Even this approach presents multiple vulnerabilities. If the token is stolen, and the password is weak, the token offers no additional protection. Researchers have demonstrated the possibility of cracking the tokens through automated attacks. RSA itself suffered a hack attack.

Google, however, seems to anticipate abandoning passwords altogether and relying on devices alone. The obvious risk with this approach is straightforward theft of the device. Losing it would be inconvenient too. No longer could one simply ask for a password re-set: the device would need to be replaced.

How are these devices going to be sent to users? By mail? How would we identify the user requesting a device? Questions, questions.

Trustworthy authentication remains the grail of cybersecurity. We've reached the stage where we know that passwords are not the solution. Tokens are a useful supplement to passwords, but provide no complete answer. The token-only strategy Google is exploring seems regressive.

Authentication will eventually turn on some factor, unique to individuals, which can't be changed or stolen. Biometrics actually don't fit the bill, because the data representing your fingerprints or retinal scan must itself be kept on a database, and databases are by definition hackable. Behavioral interaction with the device being accessed evades that problem -- but how uniquely identifying is behavior, and can't it change?

The solution will come out of left field, and right now I'm betting nobody knows what it is.

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Kim Davis
Thinkernetter
Monday February 4, 2013 1:17:13 PM
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The problem, Sarah, is that people are just unwilling to change passwords--unless forced to--when they have some forty or fifty to remember.  They are more likely to use the same password for as many things as possible, and not change it.

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Like Mark Twain said: "Put all your eggs in one basket -- and watch that basket!"

sarahp
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Thursday January 31, 2013 10:46:59 PM
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I don't think that you can beat hackers period. They will do what they want when they want. The best method that does appear to work is to keep changing your password. That is the cheapest and safest option that you will find out there, period. So why try to fix anything that isn't 100% broken?
Kim Davis
Thinkernetter
Wednesday January 30, 2013 5:26:04 PM
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I'm sure it will be fine, and I might try it myself.  It's just the eggs-in-one-basket aspect which worries me.

Mitch Wagner
Thinkernetter
Wednesday January 30, 2013 5:24:50 PM
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There were reports that LastPass may have been hacked in 2011, but no reports of actual passwords having been compromised. I figure everything involves some risk. 

A security conscious friend uses LastPass and I let that be my guide. 

Kim Davis
Thinkernetter
Wednesday January 30, 2013 12:49:51 PM
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True, although I am amazed to see passwords for quite sensitive information left literally or figuratively lying around.

Maybe I should give LastPass a try.  The concern is that if it gets hacked (as RSA did), the repercussions are serious.

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I use LastPass to auto-generate, remember, and automatically paste in passwords. For the few passwords I have to type in by hand, I substitute some punctuation for letters, and use one or two other tricks to make the passwords easy to type, unique and secure (though not easy to remember -- I use LastPass for remembering those passwords too).

And despite what some security experts say, writing down passwords and storing the piece of paper someplace safe really isn't bad. As Bruce Schneier says, we have hundreds of years of experience at securing little pieces of paper.

Alison Diana
Thinkernetter
Tuesday January 29, 2013 10:25:28 AM
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Usman: Do you prefer to sign onto those accounts through your Facebook, Twitter or LinkedIn account, or do you prefer to create a separate account where, if you want, you can use an alias that has absolutely nothing to do with your real name or location?

Alison Diana
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Tuesday January 29, 2013 10:23:48 AM
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Martin Kuppinger spoke to Yubico's CEO in 2012. Google is using a YubiKey, developed by Yubicon, and some of the product and technology info is discussed in this blog.

Anand Y
IQ Crew
Monday January 28, 2013 2:34:57 PM
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Just like you do if you forget your password - you use an alternate method to recover the password.

@taimur_tz, thanks for the clarification. I will definitely download and try this app. It would be interesting to see in which cases it fails to recognise the face.

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