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FBI's Password Stance Has Enterprise Implications

Written by Kim Davis
9/12/2012 10 comments
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One thing that's been overlooked in coverage of the FBI's increasingly hawkish attempts to obtain smartphone passwords is that it's not just the smartphone owners' personal data that is at stake.

As Julia Angwin reported in the Wall Street Journal last week, law enforcement and tech companies are increasingly at loggerheads over whether the former can obtain users' passwords from the latter.

Law enforcement agents often use forensic equipment to simply download the contents of a phone's memory, without attempting to unlock the phone. But sometimes officers fail to break into a phone or the data they find is encrypted. In that case, they can send a grand jury subpoena to the cellphone owner asking them to turn over their password. Those requests are legally tricky because the Constitution's Fifth Amendment protects people from self-incrimination.

Instead, agencies like the FBI have been pressing smartphone software vendors for assistance in bypassing passwords. Reports suggest that Google, at least, has been pushing back, although both Google and Apple are refusing to discuss the details or frequency of such requests.

There's a deeper issue here, though. It's analogous to the problem with Facebook scraping contact details from the cellphones of anyone using its "sync" feature: Facebook was collecting information about people who might not even be Facebook users -- and certainly without their knowledge.

Armed with a password, and acting outside strict supervision by a court, there's nothing to stop a law enforcement agency browsing freely through any data to which the smartphone provides access. There's nothing to stop the downloading of data, and no control over its storage or disposal. That's potentially a problem, as I said, not just for the smartphone's owner, but for his or her contacts.

In many cases, of course, that includes his or her employer.

In this BYOD age, enterprises are wrestling with the challenge of allowing employees convenient remote access to networks, and to the files and data they need to do their jobs, while limiting exposure to security risks. If the FBI prevails in its efforts to retrieve passwords from vendors, the enterprise has something new to worry about.

I don't mean malevolent exploits or espionage, of course. I just mean the negligence with which law officers, searching for evidence, might treat commercial information they don't even recognize as sensitive. As for whether it would be legal to remotely wipe enterprise data from a smartphone being examined by the FBI -- well, I'm willing to bet that's something the courts haven't even started to think about.

The message, as always, is that we're all connected. When an individual's data is exposed, whatever the circumstances, it's never just their data that's at risk.

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Wry_Veriest
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Sunday October 14, 2012 8:51:37 AM
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It appears that the old laws do not apply anymore. A phone tap and trying to break into a smart phone are pretty close to the same thing. The objective has not really changed that much. Obtain information of illegal activity.

This is the same problem with the cloud and BYOD to work. I am willing to bet 98% of the US population is not part of some spying organization. (Not counting spouses spying on each other) 

Yet potential terrorist activity allows this is to be a plausible justification for the FBI to circumvent the courts system to obtain information?  To spy on us? This did not stop Oklahoma or the WTC from happening so logically to have Law Enforcement be given the right to circumvent the constitution. Only weakens our high standards we place on the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Back to US Japanese being sent to US internment camps.

 

Susan Fourtané
Thinkernetter
Tuesday September 18, 2012 2:22:35 AM
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Kim, 

I agree, it needs supervision, and preferably someone who knows what kind of data they will be dealing with to avoid damaging or losing sensitive data that belongs to the company. 

Vendors are resisting because they don't want to lose customers. But also, they are responsible for guardian customers' privacy no matter what. 

-Susan 

Kim Davis
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Monday September 17, 2012 11:11:34 AM
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I think it needs court oversight, Susan.  Now some may say that that's inadequate, but I don't know what options there are that are any better.  Law enforcement should need to tell a judge, we need x information for y purpose.  Going direct to the vendor would allow them to romp around in the data with no supervision.

Fortunately, vendors seem to be resisting the pressure -- so far.

Susan Fourtané
Thinkernetter
Monday September 17, 2012 2:05:04 AM
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Kim, 

"Imagine having police officers, who just don't care, rummaging through your confidential files."

If the files belong to the company, even though they could be found on the suspected employee's device, and if such confidential files are encrypted, aren't those confidential files protected by law? 

-Susan

Susan Fourtané
Thinkernetter
Monday September 17, 2012 1:02:10 AM
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Hi, Kim 

"If the FBI prevails in its efforts to retrieve passwords from vendors, the enterprise has something new to worry about."

After reading your article I was thinking about the paragraph on this BYOD age. Whereas I believe giving employees convenient remote access to networks, and to the data they need to do their job anytime and anywhere I am also a defender of privacy. 

Now, somehow I find it hard to believe that the FBI could retrieve passwords from vendors to get data from devices which belong to normal, non-criminal citizens, someone like us for example.

But, if we are talking about a potential drug dealer who does his business in his free hours after working for X company during the day, would you say this could present a case of moral dilemma? 

-Susan 

 

Kim Davis
Thinkernetter
Friday September 14, 2012 2:32:00 PM
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Enterprises which need to entrust trade secrets to other enterprises (for example, ingredients suppliers who have to divulge information relevant to product safety) typically ensure that strict agreements are signed about who has access to the data, how it's stored, and its disposal.

Imagine having police officers, who just don't care, rummaging through your confidential files.

Kim Davis
Thinkernetter
Friday September 14, 2012 11:48:04 AM
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There's no political message.

I am talking about law enforcement being able to sift through data without judicial supervision, and risks arising from negligence as much as anything else.

An entirely non-partisan issue.

JCitizen
Rank: Web master
Thursday September 13, 2012 6:06:03 PM
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Liberty knows no party. I disagree with what my party does all the time. You can't change it, if you don't advocate and rustle the bushes to get change.

DukeW
IQ Crew
Thursday September 13, 2012 2:43:26 AM
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What, a political message on a technical site?  Oh, the horror!  Your middle initial wouldn't be 'Q' would it?  Seriously, governmental abuses?  There's plenty of blame to go around, so we shan't dally with which party controlled what decade.  The bottom line is that we get the kind of government we deserve -- when special interests buy candidates and they get elected, everybody suffers.  But here's the quandary -- how do we rein in a government that's gone mad?  The only entity with enough power to control such a government is...we, the people.  We own this, not some bureaucrat.  Vote your conscience, vote your beliefs, vote your platform, but for goodness sake, VOTE.  (This message sponsored by IBM...)    : )

JCitizen
Rank: Web master
Wednesday September 12, 2012 7:44:58 PM
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that much power to the government in the first place. It wasn't even necessary! They knew 911 was coming without all this falderall; the only glitch was information sharing. I can see why this happened because of government abuse in the 60's & 70's - but that is doubly why we should never have gone that far. If power can be abused, it will be.

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