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Facing Up to the Password Problem

Written by Kim Davis
1/25/2012 15 comments
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The great password dilemma has been a perennial topic here.

I've argued that the need to remember 40 or 50 passwords for different purposes inevitably pushes us toward choosing repetitive, simple formulations, and encourages us to write them down -- or, worse, store them online. Stephen Gallagher made the case that the need to defend passwords from "brute force attacks" has led to the imposition of 15 or more character minimums, practically guaranteeing that people have to keep password records.

One thing seems clear: We're not going to fix the password problem. The faster computers get, the clearer it is that passwords can't be both unbreakable and easily remembered. We need an alternative.

In the past, I've considered the possibility of using biomarkers such as fingerprints as surrogates for passwords. This seems superficially attractive: fingerprints are hard, if not impossible, to steal. Unfortunately, such a system would rely on a biomarker database, and databases -- as we know -- exist to be breached. What's more, getting a population to re-set the fingerprints following a breach would be harder, even, than getting 24 million Zappos customers to re-set their passwords.

We do, however, have a biomarker which is almost as distinctive as our fingerprints, and I'm not even talking about DNA. We have faces. That's the direction in which Apple and Google have recently been looking in order to better secure smartphones.

If password security is generally shabby, the state of smartphone PIN security is laughable. Perhaps because a false sense of security is created by carrying smartphones about with us, we have a demonstrated tendency to use such cryptic inventions as "0000," "1234," and "2580" as PINs.

That may be one reason Apple applied to the US Patent Office, earlier this month, to register facial recognition software for smartphones and tablets. Google too has been playing around with something called "Face Unlock."

Now, there's one fairly obvious loophole in facial recognition security -- show the phone a photo. Google has bluntly denied that this works, saying "give us some credit." That issue seems unresolved, but it occurs to me that there's a much more important one.

Let's say that unlocking your smartphone with your face requires you -- really you -- to be present. That's helpful when it comes to losing your smartphone. A bad actor, finding your abandoned device, is not going to be able to unlock it, perhaps not even if he or she happens to have a photo of you, too.

But is this really the problem? News Corporation this week began settling countless phone hacking lawsuits. Sixty claims have been brought against the company so far, but the police say there may be 6,000 victims. Are we to suppose that 6,000 people dropped their smartphones in pubs? Of course not.

Phone hacking, for the most part, depends on remote access. Hackers obtain unprotected phone numbers from a variety of sources -- Facebook must be a favorite -- or by social engineering. PINs, for the most part, are easy to guess. Hacking typically takes place in the legitimate user's absence.

Unless Apple or Google plans to bar remote access to devices, facial recognition security surely only solves a small part of the problem. Back to the drawing board.

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JCitizen
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Wednesday March 21, 2012 7:41:28 PM
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if the facial recognition program were based on 3D geometry, much like slit aperature radar, that it would be difficult if not impossible to reproduce. I saw an attempt to reproduce this with a similar program on a discovery channel show, using a mask of the individual, and it didn't work; but if the face were reproduced using the very scanning radar used to gather the original data, and output it to a 3D printer, this may be a different result.

I think combining advanced facial recognition with a 3D iris scan, it could be next to impossible to crack this as a bio-metric. Trying to combine all those features and get them to replay would be exceedingly difficult, and humans have ticks and habits that could indroduce a geometric analysis that would be darn near impossible to copy in two seperate scans. If a replay were attempted, the ID system would reject it as a replay, and as for further authentication. The original data base would not be invulnerable to cracking, just as is posed in the article, but because of the chaotic changes in geometry between the angle of the eye and facial features subject to human emotion and blood pressure, this could make copying the data and reusing it nearly impossible. 

I will admit it would take a monster server and fast calculations to develope such a system, but this should not be impossible at all; with todays dizzying advancements. Perhaps it would take a server system as sophisticated as that crazy computer IBM put on TV to play JEOPARDY! (WATSON) But that will be quickly equalled by industry, and the benefits will out-weigh the cost very soon.

As far as that goes the resolution and accuracy could be reduced to a point that made the process faster, and used less bandwidth, and could still keep ahead of the crackers. As scalable as it is, I can definitely see a silver lining on that cloud.

scucci
IQ Crew
Saturday January 28, 2012 11:14:42 AM
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I just don't see this catching on anytime soon. The man reason is that people have to speak their passwords into a system. This would leave open a ton of brute force options, plus happens when a user gets a cold :)

scucci
IQ Crew
Saturday January 28, 2012 11:13:25 AM
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Two form factor authentication is always better than one form factor, but it seems that everytime we come up with a solution its just going to be hacked again. 

Look at the Zeus out of band attack against mobile phones. We all thought this was going to be secure, but hackers were able to prepare of this type of authentication by putting malware on phones looking for these pins.

Its important to note that most password crackers are normally based of cracking the hash instead of bruteforcing the password itself, but with many people still allowing insecure passwords to their systems their going to leave themselves up to a bruteforce attack. The IBM thinkpads we were using were actually open to biometric attacks by the way that they were storing the hashs afterwords. You never need to know a password, just the hash. 

With keyloggers, rainbow tables and whatever else might be around right now, its hard to say what will actually help with the issue of our most vitale security concern: The Password.

This is something that we're always going to be playing cat-and-mouse with. We have to find the option that reduces the risk the most. If we start mandating that people have a 20 character complex password we'll start finding them posted to their monitors for everyone to see. Don't even get me started on social engineering, this is the best way yet to get a passowrd.

Mary Jander
Thinkernetter
Thursday January 26, 2012 12:19:40 PM
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When it comes to security, there's plenty of blame to go around. IMO, pointing fingers at end users isn't constructive. People who are hurried and under enormous pressure to perform will likely not make security a priority unless they are compelled to so so. At the same time, IT has been known to be lax when under pressures of its own.

Instead of blaming, it's time to call for solutions, and to implement those solutions in a focused way.

smkinoshita
Thinkernetter
Thursday January 26, 2012 11:58:55 AM
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="There is a very real password problem:  Human Nature. "

your response exposes the flaw: the problem is in training not in the password mechanism.  Please be accurate in your writing.

Your statement demonstrates you argument's flaw.  One of the points of the article is that the password problem goes beyond the simple mechanics of passwords, and that was exactly the point I was trying to make when I brought human nature into the equastion in the first place.

After all, the passwords have to deal with people, which makes them part of the mechanism.  If we didn't need the people then we wouldn't need the mechanism, would we?  Your argument is that because there's nothing mechanically wrong with the system there's no problem, despite the fact that nobody wants to use the system

That's a problem.

To put it in another way for those fixiated on mechanics, password authentication systems are fine when a person only has to deal with a very small number. -- that's what they were designed for.  We are dealing with a large number of authentication systems, and this old design no longer works.  We now need to authenticate for a very large number of systems, and while the power to circumvent systems has increased greatly, human nature and limitations remain the same.

Mike Acker
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Thursday January 26, 2012 11:11:02 AM
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="There is a very real password problem:  Human Nature. "

your response exposes the flaw: the problem is in training not in the password mechanism.  Please be accurate in your writing.

smkinoshita
Thinkernetter
Thursday January 26, 2012 10:58:39 AM
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Sorry Mike, but you're dead wrong.  There is a very real password problem:  Human Nature.  You can talk all you want about the proper way of handling security, that everyone should do X, but if the users think it's too much trouble then security is sunk.

Plain and simple -- unless the users (and this includes CEO's) are sold on security, it's not going to happen.  It's not something that can be strong-armed or lectured -- if they view the security as a hassle or an obstacle to productivity they will do whatever it takes to circumvent it or make it easy for them, and now the security team is not just fighting outside threats but inside indirect sabotage! No, the security has to be sold and that's not easy.

Not that other forms of security don't have to be sold, but people will naturally be drawn to the solution that is the least work on their part.  So if given the choice between passwords and say, a USB key device -- they'll choose the latter because it's just ONE item.  It doesn't matter to them that it can be lost or stolen (ugh) because it's just easier to use.

smkinoshita
Thinkernetter
Thursday January 26, 2012 10:36:15 AM
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Whoah, don't get me wrong -- I'm not against better password security, but I'm saying that the article's got a valid point in that even if you have the best passwords in the world it doesn't mean cybercrooks can't just bust in through a fragile wall.

Ever see the scene in "RED" where Bruce Willis' character is faced with an inpenetrable steel door with a passcode that changes every hour?  He kicks through the drywall and accesses the lock directly.

hounhosp
Thinkernetter
Thursday January 26, 2012 9:59:14 AM
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There is  no easy solution, but still you can't let your door unlocked because you think the thieves might break in whatever you do. The first hting to do is change your password(s) on a regular basis. That is not "the" solution, but at least you might make the job a little harder to hackers

Mike Acker
Rank: Cyborg
Thursday January 26, 2012 9:32:20 AM
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1. properly administered passwords provide adequate security. a properly administered password has a minimum complexity, AND the logon system administers a 3 strikes and out rule to prevent guessing.

2. as far as password proliferation goes there are password admin tools you can use but I don't do that.  for critical stuff, i.e. stuff that has access to money or sensitive data -- i use a separate password for each system.  there only a few of these.  everything else gets a general use password, one size fits all.  I really like the DUS

3. as mentioned there are software tools to manage this as well; Norton Security, standard on HP Computers -- is one.  Firefox does a pretty good job

But if you computer is pwned you are toast regarless of anything you think you can do.

how do you know, for sure, whether you computer has been pwned?

you don't.

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