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William J. Kelleher

Can Internet Voting Bail Out Florida & Michigan?

3/21/2008 15 comments
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In a recent New York Times column, commentator Katharine Q. Seelye invited her readers to share opinions about whether Internet voting could be used to bail out Florida and Michigan, the only states that were excluded from the Democratic presidential primary election process.  The good news is that more people are starting to think about Internet voting as a real possibility for the U.S. The bad news is that this is not the time to use Internet voting to quickly save the two miscreants from their punishment.

The DNC (Democratic National Committee) did the right thing, and kicked the state parties out of the game by refusing to seat their delegates at the August Democratic Convention in Denver. Now the two states are sorry. They are asking for special treatment, which would allow them to seat their delegates. But the problems surrounding this notion of an Internet-enabled rescue far outweigh any possible benefits of providing justice for the voters.

For starters, if Florida and Michigan implemented Internet voting to remedy this situation, in the future, other states would then try to cheat as well (seeing that there is no risk in it), moving their own primaries to a preferred date. Furthermore, would a hasty Internet election solution really be fair to the voters?

Someone could set up a Website to vote on in a short time.  But that still leaves a lot of tough questions unanswered. For instance, who is going to pay for it? The DNC? The state party committees?  The state taxpayers? The two candidates?

Even if they can agree on this, do the states have the infrastructure necessary to provide for the non-computer owners, the house-bound, the disabled, the homeless, or the klutzes?

Michigan Dems experimented with a limited online primary vote in 2004. Also, the Dems set up a secure Website for a week this year, which allowed overseas voters to cast a primary vote. Both these efforts tried to provide for secure online voter registration. For example, in Michigan, Dems had to apply for a paper ballot long before the voting started.  This was sent to them with an ID number. They could vote by mail or on the special Website using the ID number. About one third of them (46,000 out of a total of 163,000) e-voted.

However, a lot depended on the honor system. Hence, there are no statistics on how many people applied and received multiple paper ballots. All you would need is the name and address of a registered Democrat. It wouldn't matter if he or she were dead; had ever existed; had moved out of the state; were of voting age; or was really a citizen or not. Nor is it known how much vote buying and selling went on.

With all the paperwork this process generated, one wonders what the benefit of Internet voting was in the Michigan primary of 2004. And, who is ready to trust the Florida officials to do this right? Remember the picture of six perplexed Florida officials gazing at one hanging chad? Florida has roughly 4 million registered Democrats. Are they going to have Internet voting on the honor system?

So, the message is clear: We need to do this thing right.  A keystone-cops approach to a quick rescue of these two misbehaved states risks giving Internet voting a bad name. I say let Florida and Michigan sit in a corner this August, and let the rest of us start preparing carefully for the inevitable national, state, and local Internet voting we will one day have.

— William J. Kelleher, PhD, political analyst, author of Progressive Logic and The New Election Game

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homesteadtraders
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Friday March 28, 2008 8:43:39 AM
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I'm definitly looking forward to it.

kim

lpricci49
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Thursday March 27, 2008 8:46:46 PM
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Maybe true about Wells Fargo, but the Government has said NO WAY, NOT EVER.  And not without reason.  Here is a story on the report

http://www.fcw.com/print/7_7/news/73003-1.html

Internet Voting may appear however, I suspect we will see it Vladamir Putin's next stand for head of the Russian Federation. 

Tim Bell
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Thursday March 27, 2008 5:00:49 PM
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Sorry, but biometrics are easily compromised.

A few (hundred) supporting documents:
http://www.google.com/search?q=biometric+hacked&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

 

wjk
Thinkernetter
Thursday March 27, 2008 4:57:24 PM
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Hi Homes!

 

You're gonna love my new article, comming soon!

wjk
Thinkernetter
Thursday March 27, 2008 4:55:36 PM
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Hi Murugan!

I agree!  I use IRV in my proposed new process.  See my third article, coming soon!

wjk
Thinkernetter
Thursday March 27, 2008 4:51:59 PM
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Hi Ipricci49!

Please see my reply to Tim.

If the big banks had said "no way, not ever," then Wells Fargo would still be delivering deposits in a leather pouch on a stage coach!

 

wjk
Thinkernetter
Thursday March 27, 2008 4:47:16 PM
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Hi Tim!

The answer to your question is in my earlier article "Internet Voting IS Coming."

Tell me if that doesn't change your mind!

Tim Bell
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Wednesday March 26, 2008 7:49:50 PM
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If we are still having problems with voting machines at polling stations, why would anyone believe, even for a second, that Internet voting would fly? (DOS attack anyone?)

lpricci49
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Monday March 24, 2008 4:25:49 PM
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A few years ago some Government security agencies took a look at Internet voting.  The answer: no way, not ever, not even close. 

Spoofing, Tampering, Repudiation, Interference, Denial of Service, and Elevation of Privilege are just too easy.  (Remember STRIDE).  Not only the contending party bosses, but some anonymous guy in Ugabugastan could bend the election.

The answer is paper ballots, marked in ink, or a ballot marking machine, and read with a scanner.

Lawrence Ricci
www.EmbeddedInsider.com

 

 

homesteadtraders
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Monday March 24, 2008 3:49:48 PM
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As an Independent, I'm annoyed every 4 years, as in my state (NY), voting in primaries is only open to Democrats or Republicans. I do believe that all states are not like this, however. So, I never even get to express my opnion on who runs.
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