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Poles Apart: Finally, a Web 2.0 Portal That Actually Matters

Written by Stephen Saunders
11/30/2007 9 comments
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I'm writing this at 32,000 feet on a plane flying back to New York from Warsaw. And despite the fact that I'm flying with LOT, the grimbo national airline of Poland, on a nine-hour flight, still trying to get my core body temperature back to normal after spending 72 hours huddled in the back of an ice-cold Eastern European van making a video documentary… I'm in a really good mood.

The reason for my unusually good humor? I found a diamond in the rough on my trip, something that I haven't come across anywhere in North America (other than the present venue, of course): a Web 2.0 portal featuring user-generated content that actually matters, run by people who don't make me want to throw up.

The site is called Wiadomosci24.pl, which translates to "News24."

News24 is a Polish language news portal, with a twist: The content is user-generated, sent in by Polish readers, who contribute stories from around the world every day either via browsers or as text from cellphones and PDAs. And it's pretty much revived my belief in this "Internet thing" as something other than just a way for VCs and other greedy, unpleasant people who live in California to make yet more money.

Partly because Poland is a country where no one takes a free press for granted, News24's Web 2.0 brand of citizen journalism has already proven to be hugely successful. The site receives about 300 news submissions from around the world every day, and publishes about 60 percent of them. It attracts an average of 600,000 unique visitors every month, according to Pawel Nowacki, the site's editor in chief and founder, and an all 'round nice chap who made me a tasty cup of Nescafe when I visited his offices in frigid Warsaw.

User-generated content? Sent in from browsers and cellphones? Sounds frightfully similar to what a bunch of companies in the U.S. are doing – including the egregious San Francisco-based Twitter – right?

Wrong. In fact, Web 2.0 in Poland and Web 2.0 in San Francisco are worlds apart (both literally and figuratively). News24 takes an outward facing approach to content. Its citizen journalists act as independent news gatherers both within Poland and around the world, collating information, parsing it into news, and then sharing it live with News24's readers. In doing so they ensure the continued presence of an independent free press in a country where such a thing hasn't always existed, providing a vital service not just for the 38 million Poles who live in Poland, but just as much for the 20 million Poles who live outside its borders.

Contrast this with Web 2.0 portals like Twitter, hotornot.com, or Friendster. These are inward facing – encouraging circle-jerk communications among often vast memberships who for the most part couldn't care less about the world outside their browser window, preferring to engage in mass navel gazing about critical issues such as where they're meeting the Biffster to drink a maccrappafrappo, Britney's latest underwear disappearance, or the best way to clean a bong.

In other words, the content on News24 matters – really matters – whereas the content on most Web 2.0 sites in the U.S. just doesn't.

So if the technology is the same, how come the end result (the content) differs so wildly?

History is one reason. Poland's past is a horror show. Its people have perhaps endured more hard times than any other Central European state. Now things are finally looking up: Its economy is growing at 6 percent or more per quarter, faster than any other country in the region. Despite this, no one's taking luxury items, such as Internet access or a free press, for granted. As a consequence, News24, which combines the best of both, is taken really seriously by its users, who see themselves as serving a vital function.

Contrast that with what's happening in the U.S., where the paucity of valuable user-generated content on social networking Web 2.0 sites simply reflects a bigger problem – decadent rot – as an army of bored and boring, entitlement-laden, "time on their hands" teens and twenty-somethings pollute services like Twitter, MySpace, and Facebook et al. with a bunch of self-indulgent crap.

But back to Poland. News24 is already read by about 1 percent of the world's Polish speaking population, but that number would almost certainly be much higher if it weren't for Poland's absolutely terrible record on delivering broadband telecom service (actually, any telecom service) to its population.

Even compared to other Central European countries the stats for broadband availability in Poland are bad. According to the Economist Intelligence Unit, Hungary, the Czech Republic, and Romania will each have broadband Internet penetration of 17 to 20 percent in the next five years. Poland, despite the fact that it has the largest potential communications market in the region and the most robust economy, is predicted to only reach 15 percent coverage, less than half the expectation of Russia.

And herein lies another interesting, and little told, tale.

It turns out that the absolutely horrendous lack of Internet service in Poland is not really down to the Poles, but the French (obviously, being able to blame France for anything is another thing that's put me in a great mood).

What happened is that in 2000 Poland privatized its national telecom operator, Telekomunikacja Polska SA , and it's now majority owned by France Telecom SA (NYSE: FTE). And they've done an absolutely rubbish job of installing fixed-line networks. There's method in FT's Gallic indolence, however. In the absence of telephone lines, the Poles have become keen users of cellular technology, which they mainly buy from (guess who?) TPSA, owned by (yes, that's right) France Telecom. In other words, the Frenchies can't lose.

The fact that News24 has succeeded in spite of the best efforts of Johnny Continental to bollocks things up just makes it even more impressive. And it's not the only Internet success story in Poland – online retail is also taking off. It's true that right now, the numbers are tiny, with only 1 percent of retail purchases in Poland currently take place on line. But that number is increasing at a whopping 60 percent a year. And, according to traffic stats site Allexa, Allegro.pl, the country's largest auction site, is now the 51st most trafficked site on the planet.

Before going to Poland I had low expectations about the Internet's impact there, largely based on the numbers I'd read from The Economist. But to get the real story, you have to drill down past the numbers, and when you do you find that the social impact of the Web in Poland has been much greater than in countries in either the West or the Far East, which have much faster and more ubiquitous Internet connectivity.

That's exciting. And it's also restored a lot of my belief in the Internet as a force for social good, rather than as just a place for annoying people to twaddle on about rubbish.

— Stephen Saunders, Insultant

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Elisa Lucia Cundiff
IQ Crew
Monday December 3, 2007 11:28:08 PM
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I'm with the insultant on this one. That video was watched because it was tittilating. And yes, it is indicative of a new element for journalism; raw, onsite-recorded cell phone bull. Unfortunately, explosive footage is more likely to detract from the quality of the content than to add anything.

In contrast, the Polish site is promising because it has stripped away the processes that have made user-generated content sites (Mixx, Digg, Fark etc.) entertaining but useless.

Come to think of it, the mentioned video is exactly the sort of thing that I would expect to be super popular on Digg.

Phaedrus
Rank: Cave Painter
Monday December 3, 2007 12:19:30 AM
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Re: "Don't need to hear the tape to be chilled by that one."

You'd think that. But in reality, the vast majority is far too used to "news" of tragedies for it to sink in anymore. Hopefully, by actually hearing it from the scene, this will move enough people to wake up to what it really means when they hear reports of a rampaging gunman. Maybe some will even say ENOUGH already, and affect long-needed change.

The more we see the real in-your-face news, the more we can chip away at  corporate media's "business-as-usual" portrayal of such horrors in our world.

And I must say "Poles Apart" is an excellent piece. I thoroughly enjoyed it and look forward to more like this.  Viva Citizen Journalism and the net. (or would Na Zdorovya be more appropriate)
hounhosp
Researcher
Sunday December 2, 2007 2:59:32 PM
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Considering the history of Poland following the World War II, characterised by the Soviet Communist dominance over the country, it is good news to know that the advent of the web 2.0 is having a good impact over the population. No matter what could be said about the Kaczynski Brothers, the recent elections  show that the country is moving towards a true democracy where people can easily express their mind and choose their leaders. 

Hopefully, many others web 2.0 sites will be implemented, and more people will be educated so that they could profit from the wide range of possibilities that the new communication technology offer. 

Jasper Sluijs
Researcher
Saturday December 1, 2007 10:17:47 PM
Another salient detail that underscores the validity of news24 in Poland, is the current political situation over there. The infamous turbo twins Lech and Jaroslaw Kaczynski are no longer able to run the country as a family business –a few weeks ago their party lost elections and Jaroslaw will no longer be prime minister. Lech continues to be president however, under whose reign the separation between church and state has become rather thin.

Conservative catholic media stations like Radio Maria are highly influential in Poland.They deliver a nationalistic and sometimes even outright anti-semite message – while maintaining unofficial ties with the Kaczynski's Law and Justice Party.

In a media environment like this, independent and qualitative web 2.0 newsmedia like web24 are thus very much needed. Too bad I don't read Polish though...
Insultant
Thinkernetter
Friday November 30, 2007 7:05:10 PM
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Don't need to hear the tape to be chilled by that one. The fact that 900,000 people downloaded it just makes me more depressed about America's cultural apostasy.
sfwriter
Rank: Cyborg
Friday November 30, 2007 2:22:07 PM
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"...what did Jamal Albarghouti's video contribute to the coverage of the shooting, anyway?"

The cell phone video is grainy but you can hear the shots coming from inside the building, which is pretty chilling. Considering that this was the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history, this footage qualifies as more than lookieloo voyeurism. More than 900,000 people watched the video that first day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejsaF9T-qL8

I'm not a huge fan of citizen journalism in general but I'm genuinely interested in what News24 offers that is different.

Insultant
Thinkernetter
Friday November 30, 2007 1:46:26 PM
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I didn't meet anyone on my trip to Poland who I coud describe as highly affluent, period. And since the site accepts postings from cell phones (txt msgs) the economic barriers to admission as a contributor are low.

Don't the TV networks' efforts to get viewers to send in video shot with cell phones just seem like an extension of their policy that if they don't have tape of something it may as well not have happened because they won't cover it? I mean, what exactly did Jamal Albarghouti's video contribute to coverage of the shooting, anyway? That's lookieloo voyeurism not citizen journalism.

'sultant 

greenbone
IQ Crew
Friday November 30, 2007 1:08:13 PM
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...agreed, most news operations have ways for users to feed the news machine.

The tragedy of the commons is in full swing with "user generated content".  Sites that put a brain that cares between the users and the rest of the world have value - though I suppose some people just like to sift through endless drivel.

The magic for Poland's News24 may be scale and affluence combined.  The tragedy hasn't struck yet. 

 

 

sfwriter
Rank: Cyborg
Friday November 30, 2007 12:26:06 PM
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Interesting post. I'm curious, though, about the demographics of News24 contributors. If broadband penetration in Poland is indeed dismal, it would stand to reason that it's a service with highly affluent users. Are News24 contributors more highly educated or affluent than the average citizen in Poland? 

Also, would the service become more or less valuable if the number of contributors spread to other demographics. I'm willing to believe that Polish citizens are not nearly as self-absorbed as we are here in California, but News24 must get the occasional video of stupid pet tricks, no?

Last, as much as you suggest that Web 2.0 is about self-absorbed people twittering away (and yes, that is supremely annoying), citizen journalism is indeed alive (although maybe not well) here in the U.S. CNN's I-Report encourages users to do much the same thing. In April, CNN Jamal Albarghouti, a Virginia Tech graduate student, took video outside the hall where the shooting took place and uploaded it to I-Report. That night he was on CNN talking to Wolf Blitzer. The Los Angeles Times also has something called Your Scene that lets anyone upload photos and video.

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