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Readers Vote Against Tossing Pirates Offline

Written by Nicole Ferraro
4/20/2009 36 comments
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Pirates are the hot topic of the hour, whether we're talking about the ones shaking things up off the Somali coast or those causing a stir on the Internet. As Somali sea pirates last week were threatening to slay Americans, operators of The Pirate Bay -- a site that allows users to track and download BitTorrent files -- were sentenced to a year in jail and a $3.6 million fine for violating copyright law (a decision they've since appealed).

Unauthorized file sharing online has become a huge problem. The New York Times pegs American entertainment industry losses at $20 billion annually.

But lawmakers are struggling to come up with a solution. One of the most drastic suggestions so far has come from French president Nicolas Sarkozy, who thinks illegal file-sharers who've ignored three written warnings should have their Internet connections cut.

This measure was shot down by the French government earlier this month, but it could still be revived. Many purported supporters of the law sat the first vote out, and Sarkozy says he intends to reintroduce the measure.

But if French lawmakers are anything like the Internet Evolution community, such a bill doesn't stand much of a chance. In a poll last week, over 60 percent of nearly 300 Internet Evolution readers voted against the idea of kicking people offline for file-sharing. (26 percent favor the idea; and 13 percent don't know... arrgh.)

The New York Times recently published a piece debating whether this proposed law infringes on a human being's right to connect to the Internet. Many believe that the ability to connect is now a basic human right and is necessary in order to be a productive member of society. Cutting someone's access is then akin to quieting someone's free speech or restricting his/her ability to receive an education.

But the issue goes beyond that when considering the reality of passing this law. Such a proposal to sever someone's Internet access assumes that we're still living in some Internet Dark Age, limited by a single connection. But in an age of smartphones, Internet cafes, WiFi-enabled devices, software that can hide one's own IP address, and beyond, cutting access might turn out to be little more than an irritant for these repeat offenders.

Sarkozy is clearly looking to take le couperet to the piracy problem, addressing it with force and little tolerance. But as the Internet evolves, writing laws that ignore how far we've advanced technologically is short-sighted... and a waste of time.

— Nicole Ferraro, Site Editor, Internet Evolution

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Metaforic-Douglas
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Wednesday April 29, 2009 9:31:17 AM
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Enforcing existing copyright laws is a good start toward curbing this epidemic, but trying to hunt down everyone that is pirating software and limiting their online connectivity is sort of like herding cats, it can be a frustrating and time-consuming process with little chance of success.

In my experience working with former game developers that have been victimized by piracy, it is clear that the only way to effectively fight piracy is via technology solutions such as the emerging anti-tamper technology. In the gaming industry in particular, the majority of revenue losses come in the first few weeks after general availability, so protecting a new release from piracy for a matter of months can make a huge difference in the bottom line.

 

lpricci49
IQ Crew
Monday April 27, 2009 6:53:18 PM
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A technical attack on illegal down-loaders is easy.  Media files can be easy masks for Trojan horses.  dDOS is even easier.  Problem is this has been to the courts, and the answer is NO. 

Of course, do we all remember the first day download of a new Madonna song- MP3s all over the web.  And what did they sound like:  "Madonna saying "So what the F@*K do you think you are doing?"

This technique could go soft core too.  The copyright holder could salt the pirate library with low resolution and otherwise flawed versions of  of the media.  30 minutes into the movie it would start to skip and freeze?

Lawrence Ricci
www.EmbeddedInsider.com

 

Chris Poley
Thinkernetter
Friday April 24, 2009 7:39:09 AM
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C- Thanks for your view, and as innocuous as thatseems, and more than likely it's the exception to the rule, it's taking someone's work for nothing.

I'm not the moral majority here.  When is a little pirating  ok, where do you draw the line?   When it's sold for profit?

ktroulos
IQ Crew
Friday April 24, 2009 3:54:56 AM
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Chris,

this is one way to interpret the facts. But here's another:

http://5tth.blogspot.com/2009/04/digital-britain-conference.html

Best, C.-

 

Chris Poley
Thinkernetter
Thursday April 23, 2009 7:53:08 PM
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In a recent survey, it was concluded that international terrorists that manage to steal military secrets from western military intelligence, also are some the biggest customers when seeking enriched plutonium.

So it's facinating that some the biggest thieves are also some of the biggest customers. I feel much better now.

When your hard work is stolen out from under your nose, and your struggling to feed your family, it should be comforting to use  Perduco's survey.

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well put!, punishing everyone for the actions of a few is not a productive way to solve ANY problem. The matter of the fact is that where there is a money making business, there will always be people who try to work the system to get the end result without money. People who sell bootleg stuff are like the shoplifters of the entertainment industry,and no matter how many protective measures we put in place people stll shoplift!

Nicole Ferraro
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Cory Doctorow touches on this issue a bit in his latest Big Report: "Big Entertainment Wants to Party Like It's 1996." According to Doctorow, the controversial Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) contains a provision for disconnecting people across the globe from the Internet for piracy.

ktroulos
IQ Crew
Thursday April 23, 2009 3:33:25 AM
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In a recent survey by Perduco for the Norwegian market showed that people that download "free" music buy 10 times more songs compared to those that do not engage in "free" music downloads. Check it here (sorry it is in Greek) or here (google translated).

 

Mr. Roques
Researcher
Thursday April 23, 2009 12:43:17 AM
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Well, I am sure the Chinese or some other international hosts will take over. Those heavy users are the ones affected by the cap. I can only hope I don't download anywhere close to 20GB/month.

And then again, download from campus, download from a wifi hotspot or download from your neighbor's unsecured wifi connection - the cap is not the solution to illegal downloading. It's only Comcast moving the trash to someone else's yard.

Nicole Ferraro
IQ Crew
Wednesday April 22, 2009 11:42:22 AM
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Well said, ktroulos. And thanks for the information about the Norwegian ISP. That's a great example of why this policy won't work. Apart from simply being ineffective, it will likely make things more difficult for people trying to stop piracy. It doesn't make much sense.

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