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US Military Bans Google Maps

Written by Nicole Ferraro
3/7/2008 8 comments
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Google (Nasdaq: GOOG) has been scolded by the United States military for producing images of the Fort Sam Houston army base in Texas. Complying with a request from the Pentagon, some of the 360-degree images have since been taken down, and Google has been officially banned from taking video images from inside army bases, because such images threaten national security.

Google and its car-top video equipment, which it had been using to capture a street view, had apparently been given access to the Fort Sam Houston base under the condition that it wouldn't survey the grounds. The fact that they did anyway -- and posted the images on the Internet -- is what Google spokesman Larry Yu is now calling a "mistake." (Whooooops...)

According to Reuters, however, "because many images were taken from public streets, the military may not have a legal right to request that videos be pulled." Currently, if you do a Google Maps search for the army base, there still remains a shot taken from the street view with full-zoom capabilities, despite the apparent risks it poses that terrorists will immediately come savaging the country.

Clearly, the fears of the post-9/11 days are creating a conflict of interest between protecting our national security and maintaining freedom on the net. On the one hand, we want to roam free, hold hands with unfamiliar avatars, and swap delicate stories with Web weirdos -- while on the other, we feel compelled to barricade ourselves into an underground tunnel with our mouths duck-taped, out of reach of the evil-doers floating around the tubes.

Recently Wired revealed that the Air Force placed a ban on blogs, saying they pose national security risks because troops feel compelled to respond to what they feel are harsh and/or inaccurate claims most often found on left-wing blogsites. According to Air Force officials, by doing so, troops are prone to giving away military secrets or sensitive information that could put their operations at risk.

Then there's the now well known WikiLeaks case. WikiLeaks, a Website that exposes "unethical behavior" of corporations and governments, was temporarily shut down as a result of a lawsuit, but it has since been revived. While it wasn't shut down for reasons of national security, some of the documents on WikiLeaks contain sensitive military materials, like rules of engagement for American troops in Iraq -- the kind of stuff the Pentagon types probably wouldn't want floating around the Web.

It seems as if the methodology here is to run around slapping black bars on random vulnerable spots while letting the rest thrive on the premise of freedom of speech. While it's a nice idea that Google removes some images that may or may not call attention to something that may or may not pose a risk, the Web is full of national security vulnerabilities. Devoting attention to policing a few of them, while leaving up sensitive photos, videos, documents, in the rest of the places, isn't going to put the brakes on terrorism. It can't be done in piecemeal fashion.

— Nicole Ferraro, Site Editor, Internet Evolution

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Leo Nederlof
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Monday March 10, 2008 11:52:09 AM
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Hi Nicole, 

From the Washington Post article you linked:

Authorities said the group settled on Fort Dix in part because one defendant, Serdar Tatar, 23, had delivered pizzas to the base from his family's nearby restaurant,...

Ha! I wasn't too far off, then.

As far as potential threat, I don't get the impression that those guys could have been able to do more harm than your average high school kid/college student/disgruntled employee, that you read about weekly. Just strange the latter only make a minor blip in national media when they do happen, while the former is labeled a 'national security threat', and even failed attempts like these are used to justify enormous amount of resources and controversial surveillance methods and interrogation techniques.

Bottom line is, if people really want to do harm, they will find a way, and in my opinion the best thing you can do as a nation to reduce terror threat is to stop giving people a reason. You don't get too many terrorists acting against, say, Iceland, just to name a random example, right?

And of course, stopping the sale of guns at Walmart might help too...

cjon316
IQ Crew
Monday March 10, 2008 10:59:30 AM
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The US Military did not ban google maps. They merely asked nicely for google not to show street level photographs of their base.

While I agree that at some level this "banning" may be a good policy for basic security, it seems to fall under the omni present "National Security Blanket" that would make Linus from the Peanuts proud!

I do agree that a military base probably doesn't need to, want to, or have to show a street level map to anyone outside of their consent. But let's be honest. How many terrorists need google to accomplish their mission?

It does certainly raise a question about whom the government may consider hostile; anyone with an internet connection?  I do realize it probably doesn't rise to that level at all within the national security agencies we are protected by in the US government. I personally am grateful for the effort being put forth to protect us in the spirit it is intended. I do however wonder how the google set top camera machinery was allowed in to a compound which should be protected in the first place.

It has been stated and probably echoed in these thinkerNet forums that once something is published on the internet, a retraction of that published material is likely a moot point as anyone with a screen capture tool can have it saved off locally.

I hope this type of banning doesn't start to stretch out to truly public places. It also raises the question, "Is the internet really a public place?"

 

Just my two cents.

TNT
IQ Crew
Monday March 10, 2008 10:26:59 AM
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I understand overhead satellite photos being a problem.  However if the military has an issue with photographs being taken from public streets the problem isn't with the photographer, but the military themselves for allowing visual access to a secured area.  They should send Google a thank you note for raising problems with their internal security.
Murugan
IQ Crew
Monday March 10, 2008 10:18:46 AM
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Anyone find it interesting that Wikipedia has the coordinates for Fort Sam Houston ?

 

Nicole Ferraro
IQ Crew
Monday March 10, 2008 10:00:37 AM
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I believe there was an attack planned, and thwarted, last year on Fort Dix in New Jersey. Which goes to your point that it's perhaps too hard -- but the plans were made and the want was there.

Nevertheless, with regard to the current national security flaws on the Web -- whether they are Google Maps images of military bases, or detailed images of infrastructure across the country, or sensitive military documents on WikiLeaks, etc., do you think it's then pointless to tackle these at all since, as you say, a "real" terrorist will find other ways?

Leo Nederlof
Thinkernetter
Monday March 10, 2008 9:30:09 AM
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Why would a terrorist on US soil want to target military bases? Way too hard a target. Typical mode of operation seems to be bombing public places where big crowds get together. Hard to keep all those off Google Maps.

Still, I bet a 'real' terrorist would have other ways to survey a military base, e.g. as a pizza boy, or as a contracter, or just by enlisting...

hindsatya
Researcher
Monday March 10, 2008 5:36:53 AM
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Hi Nicole

It is a nice step and when it is the question of national security it should be imposed with strictness.the law and order should be strict. And I wonder howcome the authorities say it a mistake. Do they have any idea the harm these types of mistakes are going to make? Other than privacy and security issues it is also violating the fundamental rights of others. Any how the national security is above all.

Murugan
IQ Crew
Sunday March 9, 2008 12:46:07 AM
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Excellent point!  The ubiquitous Internet continues to rapidly expand into an immeasurable state that it is almost futile to attempt to police one location within it.  The information that is being censored can potentially regenerate in another area of the Internet.  Obviously, any government would not like to see information pertaining to their defense easily accessible from the Internet.  However, as a society we need to realize that the Internet sooner or later will capture information on a particular subject.  The Internet is a stage for participants to easily perform their show for a mass audience and for some that means presenting sensitive information.

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